Thom
headed up to London to chat to Billy Talent on
a one off press day to find out more about the
history of the band aswell as information about
thier new album 'III' and thier forthcoming festival
slots.
So,
let's start at the start: Pezz. Sixteen years
ago, does it feel like sixteen years?
(Ben) It feels like fucking a thousand
years.
(Jon) It's weird, and actually
Ben, Aaron and I go back two years prior to that.
In another band, before Pezz, so, I've been playing
alongside Aaron for eighteen years.
You
(Ben,) started on the drums
(Ben) Yeah and then I got demoted
by fuck-face. Man I wish I could still drum, for
real.<
Can
Aaron sing at all?
(Ben) Yeah.
(Jon) Like an angel.
(Ben) Like an angel being tortured.
Like an angel being dropped in boiling oil.
Maybe
you could swap over, just for one song.
(Ben) Yeah we could...
What
is Pezz?
(Ben) The candy? I don't know
if you have them here.
(Jon) It's like a tube and you
pull the head back on top and candy comes out.
Ah
I wasn't sure what it was; unclear about how
you could get into legal trouble with a made
up word...
(Ben) Yeah people collect them.
Weirdos.
(Jon) Pez only had one z though,
we added the other one.
Then
you became Billy Talent, released the self-titled
album, considerably different sound. What was
the main reason for that?
(Ben) Well we were kids. We had
so many different influences and so many different
perspectives all going on at the same time it
was like an uber-creative volcano of songs and
sounds and trying things out. I think as we got
older and kinda did the name change, this cohesion
happened with the songs and what we were trying
to do. It all made sense. It all felt like we
weren't on the same page for so long, and that
all of a sudden we got on the same page.
(Jon) I think it was a bit of
a conscious effort too, you know I remember when
Ian wrote Try Honesty and Cut The Curtians and
This Is How It Goes, and they were all kind of
like, a similar style. All of us really loved
those songs. And then when we were talking about
changing to Billy Talent I remember us talking
about that we should stick to this, because it
sounds great and we're all loving it 100%. Before
there were some things that one or two didn't
like, and that doesn't happen anymore.
(Ben) 36 bar break downs.
(Jon) Yeah that's great for a
singer on stage.
(Ben) “Yeah I'll just go
get a coffee.”
Billy
Talent II, the sound progressed again. Was this
a natural progression?
(Ben) I don't think so. When
Ian writes a song, he's the main songwriter...
You can't force anger. I hate bands where all
their records sound the same, there's nothing
challenging about it. We are very ecclectic individuals
and all like so many different types of music.
For us to write the same record again, wouldn't
have been fun and the fans wouldn't have given
a damn. And yeah you might lose some along the
way but you gain some too. BTII had some songs
which could have been on the first album and then
some others that were very different and challenging,
and for us, that gave us the chance to experiment
further with the new album. So what if we wrote
a similar album, everyone would say it sounds
just like two. And otherwise they say “oh
it sounds so different.” You can't win.
You've just gotta write an album as best you can
and hope the people enjoy it.
Billy
Talent II did well in Canada and Germany but not
so well in the United States. How is America for
you now?
(Ben) Well we got a new label
and we're going to be touring a lot more there
so..
(Jon) You know, it's funny...
The country is so big, like three-hundred-million
people. And we just played a bunch of shows down
that way and were really surprised with how enthusiatic
the fans were and how many of them there were.
(Ben) It's not like we go to
clubs and play to bartenders. It's just not mainstream,
very much underground. Which is cool.br>
How
do the English fans fare?
(Ben) I hate them. No. They're
honestly some of the best in the world actually.
And the great thing about the UK is, you know
we've been here a lot through the first and second
records, it still progressively gets better. We
got here today and we all sat down and said that
it was really nice to be back.
(Jon) It's got a really great
music scene too, so many music magazines and it
plays an important role in the culture.
When
was the last time you were here, was it Give It
A Name 2008?
How was it? Did you enjoy it?
(Ben) The feel was different
but the kids were great and we did a good show,
from what I can remember.
(Jon) It happens at a strange
time of year for a festival, it has to be indoors
and...
And
the time before that was the BTII tour, I caught
you in Cardiff and Southampton, with Reuben
(Ben) Good old Reuben. Why don't
the stupid idiots get back together!
(Jon) Great band.
(Ben) And probably the most awesome
guys we've met in a long time.
Yeah
you seemed to have a lot of fun together.
I remember Jamie running on with Ian's
fake hair.
(Ben) Oh Jamie, what an amazing
character. All three of them actually.
That's
the past covered; onto the present and the new
album. You mentioned you'd earnt a platform to
experiment more – does the album have an
overarching sound or is there a real mix?
(Ben) I think there's a good
mix. I think the record in general is a lot more
rock. A lot more groove-orientated I'd say. Experimenting
with different rhythms and stuff, you know, it's
just a really good record and I'm really proud
of it. Proud of all the guys, they all stepped
up, the playing on the record is amazing.
(Jon) It's got a lot more texture
than the last two records. It sounds, oddly enough,
with all the texture we put on it, much more live,
but we have more overdubs than we'd normally have
done. But I think it's made the record sound really
full and big.
Is
Turn Your Back on the album?
(Ben) Yep.
But
that single was released back in September
(Ben) That was just a demo.
Obviously
you're friends with Anti-Flag.
(Ben) They're okay...
How
do you know each other?
(Jon) We met them on Warped Tour.
Very social guys. Chris #2 used to watch us play
all the time and used to hang out with them more.
And then we took them on tour with us in Canada.
And Turn Your Back just lends itself to their
vocals.
Reading
and Leeds, excited about that?
(Ben) Not really.
I suppose,
it is only the Lock Up Stage.
(Ben) Yeah. Haha. Reading is
awesome. And we've got Anti-Flag and Alexisonfire
on the same day so it's a real bro-fest. And the
next day has Rise Against closing. So yeah we're
all comrades.
Will
there be a little collaberation with Anti-Flag?
(Ben) Oh yeah I'm sure they'll
come out. I might go and sing with them. Maybe
go on with Alexis. Have Dallas sing with us. That
would be some cross-pollenating.
Download
Festival too.
(Ben) Yeah, Faith No More...
Half
way up the main stage.
(Ben) I don't know where we are.
But it's always great fun, and now we're on the
big stage. So we're grateful for the opportunity.
(Jon) And it's just around the
corner!
You've
got a couple of warm-up shows though.
(Jon) Yeah and we've got some
European shows too.
You've
played a fair amount of festivals, and in the
UK, do you have a favourite?
(Ben) I like both of them for
different reasons. Download seems to be more down
and dirty. Whereas Reading and Leeds, I have more
of an inclination to like more of the bands, than
at Download. Like, I'm not a big metal guy. Nothing
against it, it's just my preference, it's stil
nice to play. I'm not really into it but I'm also
not very familiar with many of the bands, whereas
Reading and Leeds I know a majority of the bands.
So I'd say Reading. But Download is fun. I have
great memories of Download. They're both good
in their respective ways.
You've
got some other festivals to play. Rock AM Ring?
(Ben) That's the big one!
You've
already done Coachella.
(Ben) Yeah that was good.
And
one in Australia?
(Jon) Wasn't really a festival,
more like five shows.Ben: Yeah that was hard.
Why
so?
(Ben) Because we had to fly between
every show, and I hate flying. So I don't want
to have to get on a plane for two and a half hours.
Terrifying.
How
long are you over here for?
(Ben) We're here for a month.
Well in Europe. We're here until Saturday [two
days] and then off to Germany and then Paris and
then Finland and then back to Paris to start doing
some shows. Then Rock AM Ring. Then back here,
Radio 1 session, Underworld, Newcastle, Download,
Switzerland, home.
When
will you be back in the UK touring the new album?
Will it be an extensive as the BTII tour?
(Ben) Fall. Yeah, the whole thing.
We want to hit Scotland and Ireland too. I have
family in Scotland now who are amazing, I can't
wait to see them.
Any
idea who you'll be bringing with you?
(Ben) Right now we're thinking
Green Day and The Who, but we haven't heard back
from anyone yet. No, we have no idea. But hopefully
someone good.
Do
you have a lot of say in who tours with you?
(Ben) Yeah, but it's hard finding
bands that you like, who you want to tour with,
and who are available.
(Jon) But before, like our agent
suggested Reuben and we didn't know who they were.
And they turned out to be the more awesome guys.
We
mentioned Aaron earlier, and he has MS; how is
he coping? You're on your fourth album now so...
(Ben) Well. He's an amazing,
amazing guy. Very strong. I think, seeing him
when he found out he had it, all that time ago,
he didn't deal with it very well. And now, he's
a real inspiration. Pretty amazing to see his
progression. But he's still feeling, and he's
still playing great. We appreciate him very much,
as a band. He drives me nuts and I want to punch
him in the fucking face all the time, but we love
him.
You've
got a new album accompanying the new album with
videos and blog posts and such.
(Ben) Yeah, we're very hip aren't
we? Don't with the kids. Very savvy. Yeah I'll
twitter that shit.
Was
it your idea?
(Ben) Well to be honest, we're
band guys, we're dumb. We don't really understand
that whole world very well. Actually I shouldn't
speak for the whole band. I myself, aren't very
savvy witht hat stuff. But we had some ideas and
we certainly put them out there. We're very pro-different-mediums,
and all these things are out there and available
for us to use, so why wouldn't we use them? We
have people who we work with who have some great
ideas and we're all for it. It's great to be able
to connect with people all over the world instantaneously.
We didn't have that stuff as kids, I would have
loved to go online and watch Kurt Kobain play
guitar.
(Jon) It's all about the image
you put out, Ben's big on that.
(Ben) Yeah you can't show too
much, you've gotta be a little reserved or people
just throw themselves at you.
Well,
my time is up. Thank you very much guys.
Interview By Thom