Rob
and Jude caught up with Ville Valo from HIM back
stage in Wolverhampton before the band's headline
show at the Wulfrun Hall to talk about their current
album 'Tears On Tape', playing Dingwells in London,
Halloween and much more.
You
released your eighth studio album ‘Tears
On Tape’ back in April, Now that the album
has been out for a while, how has the reaction
been to the album?
Ville Valo: I think it has been changing, we have
a situation where we have three different record
labels releasing the album, one sorting out North
America, one for the UK, and one for the rest
of the world, and it seems in some countries the
labels haven't been doing their work (laughs).
Some places, some people dig the old stuff and
sing along to the new stuff, there's a notable
difference between different cities and countries,
it not negative, we’re not touring just
for ‘Tears On Tape’ we’re playing
all sorts of stuff, so it doesn't really matter,
you can’t expect people to like everything,
it is what it is.
How
did you find the whole writing and recording process
for ‘Tears On Tape’ compared to your
previous studio albums?
We had bit longer than we normally would, our
drummer Gas had some trouble with his hands, nerve
damage, it took about 8 months for him to recover
from that, during that time it gave the rest of
the band more time to figure out how the album
would sound and it gave me some extra time to
work on the lyrics, that was a big difference,
so we spent more time than normal. Studio wise
we wanted to work with Hiili Hiilesmaa, with whom
we have worked with in the past on several albums,
we took a lot of vintage gear with us as it was
in Helsinki, we didn’t have to ship shit,
we used a lot of mine and Burtons old synths,
it was like being in a candy store, it should
be fun and intriguing, it’s cool when there’s
inspirational stuff lying about. It was a bit
different, normally you use their stuff and get
in and get the fuck out, but this time we played
with stuff, being the mad scientists of sorts.
What
themes and stories are covering within the songs
on ‘Tears On Tape’?
It normally takes me a few years to realise what
I've done, I read a lot and write a lot, I write
down phrases in a note book, by myself I write
lines down, it’s normally about getting
the mood down, a mood you can’t quite describe
and I find the best way to do it is through music,
when you got the music together it sets the mood
for the lyrical direction. Some of it was relating
to the seasonal changes, as boring as it sounds,
but I wrote a lot when the leaves were turning
crimson and sun was going down, ‘Into The
Night’ is the best example of this. It’s
about boys and girls and how hard a life we have
on occasion, but at the same celebrating the fact
that it shouldn't be too easy.
What
would you say your favourite songs from ‘Tears
On Tape’ are and why?
I rarely listen to our own albums, the process
of getting it done is so, not so elaborate, but
pain staking that you concentrate on the details
more so than what's going, you can’t enjoy
the music because you hear all those tiny things.
I tend to listen to the album before I start a
new one, it’s used as a stepping stone.
I like ‘Lips Go Blue’, it’s
one of the first songs we did together, it’s
a HIM song and It leads the way for the rest of
the album, it’s something recognisable that
we haven't lost our identity but at the same time
has that cathedral riff (plays riff), less melodic,
more in your face meat head riff.
When
you first started out as a band did you ever think
you would be as popular as you are and still releasing
music 22 years later?
No definitely not, when you start out it’s
all about baby steps, there's no big eureka
moments, where everything changes over night,
it’s because you try to figure out the
idea for a band, who’s in the band, where
you're going to rehearse, what you're gonna
play, where to record a demo if at all, then
send it to record companies, it’s tiny
steps all the time, the big ones are getting
a record deal, even then it doesn't mean shit,
you might be signed to record label who aren't
too interested in what you do, they put it out
but they don't anything with it, so there's
no phew moments, you have to keep working on
It, there's room for improvement. To this day
it’s more about the moment in time you’re
in, let’s get this gig out of the way,
as opposed to thinking too far into the future.
The thing that matters most when on tour is
playing the music ok, everything else just kind
of goes away.
You
played a small intimate show at London Dingwalls
back in April and also headlined the third stage
at the Download Festival back in June how were
these experiences for you?
Fun, we hadn't played in a long time, so we
didn't know if people were going to be interested
in what we did, because now these days with
social media, everything is ADD, where everyone
wants everything now, but we were positively
surprised about peoples patience that they were
waiting for it, it was the same for Download
and other festivals, this is the real test starting
tonight.
You
are back in the UK to play the opening show of
your UK tour at Wolverhampton Civic Hall how does
it feel to be back and what can we expect from
the show?
Wolverhampton is a fairly quiet city, we came
from France and got here yesterday (Sunday)
and hung out in a pub called the Hogs Head on
Broad Street, and met a few people who have
travelled from different parts of the UK to
see us play, it was nice to see some familiar
faces that we haven't seen in a while, it’s
good to be back. The UK is important because
the isle is the reason why we played music a
lot of the bands we listen to came from these
isle. I also love the architecture, the nature,
the accents and the language, it’s one
of my favourite places to tour but it can be
tough too, there's a lot of good bands touring,
but it’s a bit of a challenge, songs translate
differently from city to city in the UK, that's
part of the excitement of touring here, it’s
a bit of a gamble, as it should be.
You
are playing two shows at London Koko and one happens
to fall on Halloween, do you have anything special
planned for this show?
We did the Hammersmith Apollo a few years ago
in makeup and stuff and it was fun as fuck but
the problem is you have to be able to perform,
you can’t dress up too much, I would have
loved to have dressed up as Doug Bradley in
Hellraiser, but that would mean I would have
to shave and get the pins in my head, it could
be a wee bit tough! But there will be something,
but the most entertaining part will be what
the crowd wears.
Now
you have 8 studio albums to your name is it becoming
trickier when it comes to picking set lists?
We play about 16 songs which is about an hour
and half, 4 new songs and songs off Greatest
Love Songs’, ‘Razorblade Romance’,
‘Love Metal’ and ‘Venus Doom’,
we skip the pop albums (laughs) it’s a
riff show, it’s not a hits set, we have
a few staples like ‘Join Me in Death’,
‘Wicked Game’ and ‘Buried
Alive By Love’, which if we didn't play
in the UK people would be disappointed as it
was probably the first song they had heard by
us. We try to mix up playing songs people haven't
heard in a while, I'm hoping we don't have to
make too many changes as we put the time in
to trying to make drama in the set so it flows
nicely.
When
on lengthy tours what do you get up to in-between
shows to pass the time?
I used to try to write stuff while out on tour
but the problem with that is, you’re in
two different head spaces, happening at the
same time, you're working in the future kinda,
working on stuff that hasn't been released,
then playing every night singing old songs,
at least for me, it’s a kind of mind fuck
to go back and forth. So I wait till I get home
and then that's the time to pick up the acoustic
guitar and hum stuff. I also try to relax as
much as possible maybe take a walk if there's
a vibe in the city.
You
have toured pretty much all over the world, is
there anywhere you haven’t toured yet but
would love to tour/play a show?
Were trying to figure out if it’s possible
to tour in South America next year, we would
like to go back to Australia to get some sun
and recharge the batteries. We would like to
tour China, we have never really toured Japan,
I don't want to seem too greedy as we have toured
a lot, it would be good to tour Russia, go to
a place there called Vladivostok which is really
far out as a posed to just touring in Moscow
and St Petersburg, you need a reason to visit
the far out places because you wouldn't if you
were a tourist.
What
would you say your main highs and lows as a band
have been so far?
It’s tough to separate life from rock
and roll when it comes to our band as we started
so early, I met Mige when I was 8-9 years old
met Linde when I was 10, so basically we have
grown up together, been through life experiences
together, the group has always been there, that
the personal stuff gets mixed up with the personal
stuff, so if you have trouble back home then
it’s going to reflect on how the bands
doing, if one fifth of the band isn't doing
so well it reflects on the band, it’s
a chemical reaction always. Broad stroke High
is that the band is still together through the
positive and the negative, bands don't stay
together that long, it’s tough to have
5 people together in a bus and actually enjoy
what they do and not doing it for work and still
cracking jokes, we’re happy to have the
bread on the table so that when we do go home
we don't have to go work at a post office or
whatever, we can go home and actually relax.
If it all comes crumbling down then at least
we have had this memory. It’s a mixed
bunch of life and everything in the music. The
personal lows back in the day, I was in a bad
way partying a lot, when they party heavy its
usually called self medication, you do it because
of some other reason, I wasn't able to take
any time off, shit hit the fan relationship
wise back home and I was 5000 miles away touring
in America, It was tough for me trying to cope
with everything, while playing in front of people
enjoying what you do then at the same time trying
to deal with the personal stuff, that's the
problem with this band and the cool thing about
this band, that it is a big ball of insanity,
but at the end of the day the band did keep
me together and they had the patience to wait
for me to get better, there's negative in the
positive and positive in the negative.
What
do you have planned once your current tour comes
to an end?
After this tour is done, I think everyone is
going to have a rest, then it’s Christmas
time, we’re going to work out Hell Done,
how we can change it up a bit rather than the
same old same old, then working out more touring
maybe Australia, North America and then it's
festivals.
Thanks
for your time, are there any messages for your
fans reading this?
Just thank you for the patience and spending
the time with us. We’re trying to make
this a special tour for you guys.
Interview by Robert Lawrence And Jude Onions