Trigger
caught up with Pure Love at Bath Moles to talk
about how the band came together, their forthcoming
album 'Anthems', plans for the future and much
more.
Pure
Love was announced to the world back in July 2011
but how did you first come together as a band
and come up with the name Pure Love?
Jim Carroll: We both live in
Brooklyn and we met a few years prior to us living
there just briefly when an old band of mine played
with the Gallows and we just reconnected in Brooklyn
through mutual friends and started talking about
doing a band and that’s when it all came
about.
Frank Carter: We had ten songs
and we were both saying at some point we need
a name so we stopped talking and just had a text
conversation and each day it would just be huge
I phone conversations of weird band names and
it went on for weeks but finally Jimmy was watching
a video of Mahavishnu orchestra online who have
a song called ‘Sapphire Bullets Of Pure
Love’ and texted through Pure Love and I
was like that’s it and made a thousand stickers
that night and we was committed to the name.
From
the moment Pure Love formed back last summer right
up until your debut show on Valentine ’s
Day there was a lot of secrecy on what musical
direction the band were taking, did this make
you slightly nervous or super excited before your
first show?
Frank Carter: It was our decision
to keep things secret so all the way along I wasn’t
nervous or scared but right before the show I
was like fuck.
(Laughter)
Frank Carter: And right at that
minute I didn’t know what to expect and
I realised that I had to go on stage and sing
so I did and it was fine, maybe a few people left
but the majority stuck around and it was still
pretty busy when I walked off stage which was
a good sign. From then it has been going from
strength to strength, and it’s weird how
the internet has changed things in music as people
are less likely to take a chance with music now
and like to see and hear as much as possible before
they go and see a band so it is very strange because
then it’s like they just go to the gigs
to video it and put it online. I do feel that
the mystery was a nod to our youth growing up
who really struggled to find a new band and when
you did find one the satisfaction was very rewarding
as you stuck with them forever but I feel people
are less inclined to do that now. We loved our
songs and we are aware of our past and where we
came from but we didn’t really want that
to have too much of an influence on people’s
opinion of the band before we started and that’s
kind of why we gave everyone the one show, and
the show was great it sold out the feedback has
been amazing and I feel the whole mystery thing
was a success and it is still a bit of mystery
now but more videos are popping up online all
the time.
Jim Carroll: I try to never read
comments on you tube and things like that but
sometimes you happen to stumble across something
but from what I can see most people seem to be
positive but there is still the occasional comment
where people think we are playing a joke on them.
Your
latest single ‘Handsome Devils Club’
was released today, what’s the response
to the song been like since you premiered the
video for it back in June?
Frank Carter: I think it has
been alright but like I said I try and stay out
of all that shit because with any kind of art
you spend so long crafting it and making it that
you obviously want it to do well but really you
do it for yourself and that’s only who it
is ever for and as long as you can say you are
proud when you finish it then it doesn’t
really matter what anyone else thinks.
The response has been amazing but I’m
talking about myself as every night we play
I get more excited about the song coming up
in the set which is great that we have managed
to create something that I enjoy playing more
and more which is very rare as with anything
I do such as my tattoos it’s very hard
to find something that you like doing repeatedly
but that song specifically when it kicks in
I get so psyched as I really like it.
When we went to record the album Jim and I
had 30 something songs together and ‘Handsome
Devils Club’ came when we did a bit of
writing in Brooklyn just before pre production
just to give more songs to Gil and he was like
I found another song you might want to check
it out and he gave it to me and I was like where
the fuck have you been hiding this shit and
then I wrote lyrics to it that night and put
them to it and it sounded perfect, I sent him
my idea back and he loved it. We did the same
thing when we went into the studio we went in
there we thirty something songs trying to cut
them down to ten and we ended up writing two
brand new songs and we ended up on eleven for
the album and have plenty of songs left which
we haven’t fully gotten into yet and we
don’t know if we ever will but it’s
just nice to know they are there
Vocally
Pure Love is vocally a massive change from what
you have been doing in the past did you find this
change easy or something that got better over
time?
Frank Carter: Musically I think
this is the most accomplished I have ever been,
it’s been a massive learning curve for me
but right from the beginning Jimmy has been so
supportive then I met my fiancé and she
had a singing instructor in New York who I went
to see just a handful of times and that changed
everything and really pushed me to feel comfortable
about what I was doing, so yeah it was a big change
and I am still getting used to it now but its
fucking fun, I don’t want to shit on my
past entirely but I always thought with Gallows
that I was a little undeserving of what I had
in that bad because I was literally talking aggressively
and spitting at people, I sung when I was a young
kid but I never sung like this and to start with
I was like I can do this but when we went into
pre production I was like I can’t do this
and then two days in I calmed myself down and
really felt at home with it and I feel really
good and strong and like I can do anything now.
Singing in public is a big thing and when we went
out for that first show I was shitting it.
I
bet it was rewarding
in the end?
Frank Carter: Yeah it was so
rewarding and now every night it is like my playground
I love to sound check now and I never used to
sound check I can count the amount of times I
sound checked in the people on two hands collectively
over six years I just didn’t do it there
was no point as it wouldn’t make any difference
to me it would sound how it would sound but this
time I want to sound check because it is fun to
sing the songs.
You
have been busy working alongside Gil Norton on
your debut album ‘Anthems’ how have
you found this experience?
Frank Carter: Brillaint
Jim Carroll: It’s been
amazing, we met Gil the night we signed our record
deal and he was just at Vertigo having a meeting
and when we showed up that night he already had
notes in his not book of the demo’s he had
heard already which was about five songs and we
went out for dinner that night and from the get
go it just felt like the right vibe as everyone
got along really well and he knew what we wanted
to do so we met up with a couple more people but
it was just sticking out in the back of our mind
that Gil knew what we wanted to do so we just
went with him and it worked out great, we went
in for a month of pre production and then a month
of recording the record and we have been together
every day and he made some great suggestions.
We heard so many stories on how Gil was some
kind of ball buster about getting bands and
people quitting because of him being the producer
and at the time we was talking about how he
doesn’t seem that way and we were slightly
nervous about it and then we went in with him
and it was virtually painless apart from the
long days and nights and he was so supportive
of what we wanted to try and was totally up
for anything so it was a great two months and
we have came out with an awesome final product.
‘Anthems’
is due for release in October what can we expect
from it?
Frank Carter: Some big
classic rock songs, we just wanted to write songs
that we enjoyed and we took inspiration from everything
that we have loved growing up and it’s a
collective mix that has a really good flow to
it and it is defiantly not boring, but in generally
it is just big fun rock and roll songs that have
plenty of parts for people to sing along to.
Jim Carroll: One of the things
that I am most proud of is that it is not the
same song over and over as each and every song
has its own flavour and you can defiantly see
the influences that came in and I just love how
it came together.
What
inspired you whilst writing the lyrics for the
album?
Frank Carter: The lyrics are
a strange thing as a lot of stuff in there is
from years ago like four or five years ago because
I write lyrics all the time and they never really
found a home but when Jimmy started sending me
songs I had instant melodies in my head and then
I would go through this whole archive of lyrics
and see what worked and what didn’t so sometimes
I would try two or three different sets of lyrics
before I found a really good fit. But with ‘Anthem’s
every single song I tried just worked and it came
together so well and it was good to work through
all this shit that had been sitting here for years
because it suddenly wasn’t shit any more,
I have obviously changed the lyrics around slightly
but there are songs on there that I wrote when
I was really miserable and there are songs on
their which I wrote when I was in the studio and
when I was really happy and full of life so there
are songs on there that I wrote at all different
times of my life and overall it is a great listen.
I never sat down and wrote eleven songs it was
more like sitting down and editing eleven songs
which was brilliant as it was all there ready
for me and even now I’m writing again
already and we have started working on some
new songs already but I know for a fact that
when we get into the studio again I will still
go through that old pile as it works as this
band is about us and our lives and before the
material wasn’t appropriate but now it
is totally appropriate and a lot of the songs
Jimmy had written years before.
Jim Carroll: The first night
we sat down and talked about it I went home and
I was going through memos and any old demo recordings
and I was just sending them off to Frank and one
of the song’s I actually wrote that night
was the first one that Frank came back with lyrics,
but a bunch of those older ones just made their
way. The way I write I just come up with something
and ill either make two or three solid parts to
go around it or I will leave a riff and put it
away.
Frank Carter: Which is amazing
for a vocalist because when I want a new song
he sends ten to fifteen different ideas and I
run with that.
Jim Carroll: We have a good partnership
running.
You
are currently half way through a mini headline
tour across the UK, how have the shows been so
far?
Frank Carter And Jim Carroll:
It’s been amazing.
Have
you had any favourite shows from the tour?
Frank Carter: Every show has
been really good like Birmingham on the first
night of the tour the whole place just exploded
with people singing every word, and fro a band
which has two singles out and no other record
out, it’s great and really makes you think
you are doing something good. The shows have had
a mixed crowd in the way that it is not always
the people I would expect and the kids have been
really getting behind it and it couldn’t
be any better.
Can we say thanks to everyone that has come out?
Yeah
sure!
Frank Carter: Everyone has been
coming out with a good open minded mind set and
everyone just wants’ to have fun.
You
are set to play the Reading and Leeds festival
this August, are you looking forward to showing
the festival crowd what Pure Love are all about?
Both: Can’t wait
Frank Carter: I have played the
festival a few times but it is Jimmy’s first
time, I totally love that festival but I have
always played in a hardcore band and it is always
difficult to make that transition to the bigger
stage because that’s not what the music
is about, but with this band we specifically wrote
big songs that the crowd would want to sing and
I can’t wait to get there because we are
playing a big tent early in the morning so either
everyone is going to be hung over and not turn
up or they will all be there bright bushy tailed.
It
will be a good experience for you.
Frank Carter: Yeah either way
it will be a good experience where we will play
an empty tent or a full tent, or even a middle
of the road tent.
Can
we expect a full length tour towards the end of
the year to coincide with the release of ‘Anthems’?
Frank Carter: You can defiantly
expect a full length tour to coincide with the
album but I just don’t know when the album
is going to come out but we will be touring as
soon as the album is out.
Where
do you hope to see Pure Love in a year’s
time?
Frank Carter: Together still
(Laughter)
Frank Carter: Just going from
strength to strength really and I just hope that
people really get behind it and enjoy it as much
as we do and that is all I can really ask for.
One
last random question that we ask every band, if
you could be an animal out of a zebra or Giraffe
which one would you be and why?
Frank Carter: Zebras or a Giraffe
that’s a weird choice.
(Laughter)
Frank Carter: How often do you
see a giraffe being taken down by Lions?
Jim Carroll: Not often it’s
a rare one, zeebras look cooler.
Frank Carter: I would debate
that, a giraffe has a natural camo look at a zebra,
a Zeeebra listen to you it’s a zebra, look
at a zebra it’s black and white and lives
in a fucking desert he’s fucked.
Jim Carroll: It doesn’t
live in a desert.
Frank Carter: Ok they plains
of Africa, either way he’s fucked who would
want to be a zebra, you may look pretty in a zoo
but that’s it, so im a giraffe.
Jim Carroll: I’d say a
giraffe as well.
Thanks
for your time is there a message for your fans
reading this?
Jim Carroll: Thank you.
Frank Carter: Thanks for sticking
by us and having faith and coming out to the shows
and here’s to many more good times.
Interview by Trigger