Lauren
caught up with Puddle Of Mudd to talk about their
return to the UK, touring with Soil, plans for
the future and much more.
How
did the co-headline tour with Soil come about?
Due to our old record label deciding to quit putting
our records out over here after having two platinum
records; which makes no sense and they never gave
a reason for it, nobody could seem to do that.
Are
they ever going to see the light of day over here
then?
Yeah, well we’re now off of that label;
thank the lord, and now we have our distribution
back over here. It’s amazing when you get
rid of your management and your record label how
good things become. They want to work, they’re
not haggard so they want to work and so we instantly
got distribution again so we came over and did
Download and a gig in London and he hired a new
booking agent over here who’s also Soil’s
booking agent and he said, “Soil’s
looking to have a reunion tour with their old
singer, would you guys like to join them?”
and we said, “Yeah,” you know you
can only circle America so many times.
How’s
the tour gone down?
It’s been great, I really didn’t know
what to expect. All the shows have been if not
sold out then right at it, the crowds have been
good. It’s just weird for us because of
the records that didn’t come out over here
because in American we’ve continued to have
hits you know? The first night in London was a
little rough, I didn’t know what to expect
so I kind of tailored the set the way we do it
in America. I had to change it instantly because
we started with a set list that just killed in
the states and here no one knows the song other
than the hardcores you know? Like half the crowd,
you know, the nostalgic fans who only own like
the first two records didn’t so I had to
adjust the set, so it’s been different,
but the crowds have been great and the tours been
good we get along with the soil guys.
Have
you played a lot of covers recently with the new
covers album coming out?
We do two, TNT and Gimme Shelter by the Stones.
It was just something fun to do because we came
off the last record cycle frustrated with management
and our label and knew that we were getting rid
of all of that so we had to take some time to
take care of that so we weren’t writing
or anything really so we all just took some time
off from being frustrated and angry and it just
sounded like a fun chill thing to do as opposed
to try and write a record real quick so we could
tour. The last record was kind of forced you know
due to the label. We were in the studio writing
songs while we were recording. When we were in
the studio we had four songs; we would write and
then just hit record you know and that’s
not the way to do it.
So
do you have plans for a new record of original
material?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. In January we’ll be
concentrating on that. We’ve been writing
a lot, we have a bunch of really cool songs that
I’m excited about. We’re actually
going to be demoing in the next couple of weeks
when we get back home and then January February
is just full on getting the record together and
recording.
You’ve
had a lot of line-up changes over the years.
Yeah I know.
Is
it hard to kind of keep the camaraderie to write
new records?
It changes yeah, I mean obviously with the first
record that was mainly Wes because he had a bunch
of the songs, a lot of those songs were like seven
years old and his band had broken up and he was
done with music and then this happened, but yeah
it’s evolved. The last record was mainly
me and Wes and the one before that was Wes and
Doug and yeah it evolves and I feel like right
now the line-up we have, because me, Wes, and
Doug are original, and then we’ve got Shannon
on drums and then Adam as a second guitar player,
but I really like this line-up a lot everybody’s
chill and we get along and me and Adam have been
writing a lot together, really connecting so that’s
a cool thing, but yeah we’ll see what happens.
Obviously
Come Clean is probably still your biggest record
and Blurry the biggest hit from that yet you never
played it at Download which disappointed a lot
of fans, was there a reason for that?
There was a reason; it was a technical disaster
for us, probably one of the worst shows that we’ve
ever played. My whole pedal board went down, I
was out of tune I believe on every single song
and as a result of that…Blurry was our last
song in the set, but as a result of trying to
get all that stuff fixed we went over and they
don’t mess about there, they come on and
pull you off. We were getting ready to play Blurry
and they’re like, “No you’re
done.” So it wasn’t intentional. Yeah
I’m sure people were disappointed, I was
disappointed, it was the worst show. My wireless
went out so I had to be put on a cable and then
I got tangled up in Wes’s mic cable and
I couldn’t move because we were locked together,
it was horrible.
Sounds
like a nightmare.
It was man because it was something we were so
excited about. A, being back and then B, playing
Download it’s huge; it was just a disaster
I think I drank like a whole bottle of vodka within
the next hour.
Do
you ever get tired of playing songs like Blurry;
a lot of bands hate their hits after a while?
Blurry no because I genuinely think it’s
a good song. She Hates Me yes because I think
it’s a horrible song and I always have.
It’s a nursery rhyme, I don’t think
any musician would tell you that’s a good
song, but it’s a catchy song the fans like.
I didn’t even want that song to be on the
record, I told our record company, “No,”
and they wanted to put it on, so I said, “All
right you can put it on the record as long as
you never release it as a single,” you know
I always say a house and a car later…
If I never had to play that song ever again I
would be happy as can be, but it’s like
the Blurry thing; people get pissed. Our last
tour in the states I took She Hates Me out and
our Facebook just got lit up, so I had to put
it back in and play it every night.
Who
wrote She Hates Me?
Man that was sitting around drunk. Actually record
was finished and we were in the studio and Wes
just started playing that, literally it was a
joke, it wasn’t meant to be recorded. Our
label guy was there and he was like, “You
should record that it’s awesome.”
They tricked us into recording it, they tricked
us into putting it on the record, they tricked
us into having it as a single. As lucky as we
are that it was such a big hit, at the same time
as an artist I don’t want to be remembered
for that song.
How
did you decide on what the cover for the new record?
It started out we were just going to do TNT and
The Joker by Steve Miller because we’ve
been doing those in our set for a long time and
then we got the idea of doing the whole covers
record and bringing in a whole bunch of extra
musicians. We spent three months compiling songs
and going back and forth, we wanted to do things
that were actually inspiring to us and we were
fans of as opposed to just doing things we thought
might sound good like most bands do. We wanted
to do stuff we really liked and respected as musicians.
Also there were some songs that were entirely
selfish for us because they were so far away from
what we could do, do you know what I mean? Like
if we went and did and Elton John type piano ballad
on our record people would be like, “What
the hell’s going on here?” So it allowed
us to go and do that, you know and if you don’t
like it it’s because you don’t like
that Elton John song and don’t by the record
we’ve got a new one coming out soon, fuck
you. For the most part it’s been positive,
you do get the die hards that are like, “What
why are you doing an Elton John song?” and
it’s like, “Because I’m a musician
man I get bored playing the same four chords all
the time,” I thought it would be cool to
tackle piano orchestration that we’ve never
done before. I haven’t practiced since I
was 15 and I had to practice, I had to work my
ass off to do these songs; it was fun.
Is
the approach to recording covers different to
original material?
Yes and no. I mean the songs already written for
you so that’s easier, but to go in and do
it justice and not ruin it is difficult. A lot
of people when they do covers they really make
it their own and sometimes it works and totally
blows your mind and sometimes it completely ruins
it. So our approach doing the Stones and Zeppelin
and stuff was I wanted to go in and make a really
cool 70’s record as far as how it’s
really stripped down compared to how we do it.
Very live, very few takes and just record it on
modern equipment, so I think that when you listen
to the songs everything is represented in its
truest form it just sounds like we’re playing
through our amps as opposed to their amps. I didn’t
want to take too many liberties because who am
I to fuck with that do you know what I mean? You
can take a Michael Jackson song and turn it into
a rock song, but I’m not going to take The
Stones and turn it into a grunge song.
How
have people been responding to it, press and fans?
You’re going to get mixed views, but I’ve
seen a lot of people who are like, “I hate
Puddle OfMudd, but this is great,” and then
I see the 14, 15 year old kid who’s like,
“your new records shit, go back to grunge,”
but I’ve seen more positive than negative.
At the end of the day it was a covers record to
do something different so I don’t really
give a shit.
You
guys have a lot of songs on WWE shows I was just
wondering why?
I don’t know I mean it’s not us, they
contact us and, obviously, it’s exposure
and its money. I don’t watch wrestling I
mean I did when I was a kid, I was a massive fan.
It’s two of the highest rated television
shows in America it’s unbelievable how many
people watch that so it’s cool with me.
Much
of the music industry is digital now and social
networking plays a big part, what do you think
about that?
The social networking part of I think is great
because it allows you to reach out to fans. I
have my own personal Facebook that I try my best
to keep up with, at first I accepted anybody,
but they cap you at 5000 on a personal page so
now I’ve saved the last 100 for people that
I actually know, but I tell people that they can
go like my fan page and when I fill up here I’ll
switch over to that. I do the Puddle page too
and I try to keep updating as much as I can, but
as far as digital music and what not it’s
killed the whole industry it’s killed everything,
luckily we just got in and we still make money
off records. It either gets leaked, or you illegally
download it, or even if you’re a good samaritan
and you go to iTunes and you just buy the single;
whereas you used to have to buy the whole record.
I get it as a consumer, but for us we’re
losing like $12, $13 if you only buy the single.
That trickles down to music stores shutting down,
it amazes me that you guys have so many record
stores over here in the states we have none. I
walk the streets here and I’m like, “A
record store, that’s fucking awesome.”
It’s trickled down and there’s nothing
we can do about it we just have to adjust how
we tour and where you get your money from?
Where
do you guys hope to be in a years’ time?
I hope to have the new record out and set up summer
touring.
Over
here again?
There are talks of something pretty big which
I’m not at liberty to say yet because they
haven’t signed on the dotted like yet. It’s
a tour with another American band who are good
friends of ours, hopefully it’s going to
happen, it’s looking good.
Finally
a question we ask every band which animal would
you rather be a zebra or a giraffe?
I don’t know I’ve never really thought
about that. I’m going to be a zebra because
I only wear black and white and then that whole
having your neck really high all the time I would
think that your neck would get sore at some point
and then you can’t walk, it would give you
that whole bent over thing that old people have.
Interview by Lauren Mullineaux