Thom
caught up with Chris Freeman from Manchester Orchestra
before their headline show at London Koko to talk
about their new album 'Simple Math', their current
tour and much more.
Thanks
for taking the time out to do this.
No problem.
Welcome
back to the UK!
Thank you.
Last
time you were here you did the one headline show
at Heaven, I bumped into Jonathan and everyone
seemed a bit stressed, there were some passport
difficulties?
Yeah, our drummer thought he had lost his passport
because his bag got stolen, but it turns out
that in Germany his passport had got switched
with our bass player. And so we showed up to
the airport the next day and we had the wrong
passport and it was a whole mess of going to
the embassy and everything. It was awful.
But
everything is sorted this time around, I take
it?
Yes we have kept a close eye on our passports.
Okay
well, how is the tour going? Your last headline
tour here was 2007?
Yeah well, we've been here so many times, I
feel like we've done some headline shows but,
not a tour. No, it's going really well, the
shows have been great, bigger venues, and tonight's
[KOKO] sold out, so it feels really cool.
How
does it compare to the last tour of your first
album?
Well we played KOKO actually, on our first
trip over during an NME DJ night, or whatever,
and a lot of our gear ended up breaking, Andy's
guitar didn't work, it felt like a throw-n-go
kinda show. It wasn't as organised as we'd have
liked it to be, so now that we can sell it out
and play to our fans, it's really nice.
How
many of the nights have sold out?
Tonight, Manchester, and maybe one other. Glasgow?
Something like that, but one of the other shows
sold out as well.
And
you're here with The Xcerts, have you been pally
with them? Another Scottish band for you to make
friends with. (Having previously toured with Biffy
Clyro.)
Yeah they're great, honestly, great band, really
funny, good guys to be around. Our humour is
kinda similar so it works out really well.
Were
you touring anywhere else around the globe before
this UK stint?
We just got off a tour with Blink 182 and My
Chemical Romance in the States, doing their
Honda Civic tour. Then we have five days off
and we have our own headlining tour of the US.
Yeah
that looks like a pretty big tour, is that maybe
one of the biggest you've done?
I suppose so, I feel like we've just been going
and going and going since the record came out
so it all just feels like one big blur of shows.
And
then of course the big US tour ends with “The
Stuffing” which is an event put on by yourselves
in Atlanta, can you tell us more about that?
Well, we have our label Favourite Gentlemen,
and all the bands on that label... We kinda
wanted to have a big thing with all the bands
off the label. There's a venue in Atlanta that
has three different sized rooms with bands rotating
throughout the entire building. And this year
it's us and Cage The Elephant headlining it.
Well, I suppose we're headlining it. But it's
just a cool hometown thing to do, this is the
second year we've done it, the first year went
really well and sold out. So it's a really fun
family gathering.
After
the last record, it was put about that you were
kinda going on hiatus, putting things to one side
for a bit but then.. a few months later it was
all about the next album, what happened there?
Well, we didn't go on hiatus we just went into
the studio. We had to end the Thrice tour early
because of some health problems within Thrice's
family, so we just went straight home and started
writing. We still had the energy from the tour
going, but it got cut short, so we went into
the studio and started to write and demo everything.
We wrote like, thirty-something songs for Simple
Math so it took us that time to record it, and
we did.
And
obviously you've changed drummer...
Yeah we had three guys on Simple Math; we had
Tim, Ben and Len(?), who we had played with
in other bands and had been around for a long
time, and who we liked as drummers. We have
Tim with us now, he seemed the one that made
the most sense, and we stuck with him...
He
seems a lot more powerful than before, perhaps
it's just the way he expresses his movements...
He's a lot faster, very John Bonham-ish. He
can play fast and hit hard at the same time,
so it's nice to be with a different kind of
drummer.
So,
onto the album, Simple Math. Peaked at #21 in
the US, sixteen places up from Mean Everything
To Nothing. You've gotta be happy with that.
Yeah, the response in general for Simple Math
was just so positive, fan-wise and critic-wise.
It's a really cool release and we're happy that
people enjoyed it. We sat on that record for
a while before it came out so it was nice that
when it did come out, people enjoyed it as much
as they did.
It
didn't chat so well here, but at the end of the
day you've come over to do a tour with some sell-out
dates so...
Yeah well over here it's more about word of
mouth. We've been able to watch our fan-base
grow without having a hit single or huge record,
so we're not concerned about being a flash-in-the-pan
kinda band.
How
would you describe the record in comparison to
the second?
We had friend who described the jump between
Virgin and Mean Everything To Nothing as a step
up, and then this record as more of a ladder
up. A situation where, it took multiple steps
to create this beautiful and very bombastic,
like, a very deep record as far as the sounds
go. And I think that's what we were going for,
the biggest most beautiful sounding record we
could do, and I think with the strings and the
other additions to the record, we were able
to do that. I think it's a very personal record
for all of us, the subject matter is something
that we all went through together, as friends,
so I think it's a good representation of the
two years before the album came out.
The
album is generally about, if I'm right, Andy and
his wife and the whole post-marital...
Yeah it about early twenties, you know, getting
married at 21, and what that means as a touring
musician and the effect that has on you and
your friends. The situations and the narrative
of that. That hardship that happens and what
comes out of that, it's something very beautiful
and something which the record represents very
well. And it all ends with a beautiful sort
of stoner-y riffy song.
Do
you have favourite tracks from the album?
I love Virgin, I think that's a great song.
I think that's the heaviest song we've done.
Andy played a metal baritone on that track,
definitely one of the darkest sounding we had.
That and Pale Black Eye, Apprehension, songs
where we were able to veer off a bit. Having
a drummer who was a little more versatile than
Jeremiah was able to be. He was a hard hitter
but he wasn't able to groove as well as we wanted
him to.
Manchester
Orchestra was intended initially as Andy's project
where he would have friends collaborate and such.
When was the crossover from this to, “okay,
we're a band now.”
I think once we had this line-up, well, once
we had Jeremiah we'd found a group of people
that we liked being around, everybody got along,
and we made good music together. It was discovered
that, the band was changing too much, with different
members each time. So once we found a formula
that worked it made sense to settle down, and
Jeremiah leaving was a wrench in that whole
system but I think with Tim now, we're back
to that same place. And this is the core of
our band.
I
was at the Bristol
show last week. Fantastic.
Thank you.
But
no Virgin!
Well that's the problem, it has to be played
with a baritone guitar, it just can't be done
in a proper way without a baritone. But we got
one, today, we rented one. So hopefully we're
going to throw that into the mix.
Excellent!
Has the set changed much over the week?
Once we found a good rhythm... I think we found
a good rhythm in, maybe Glasgow? I can't remember
which night but we found this really good set,
that flowed really well and we'd changed it
from our US set, and I think we're going to
stick with this new one.
Quite
a lot of bands come over with a new album and
will play it's entirity and then...
Well we don't really know how to play the entire
record! There are so many songs we wish we could
play live but, can't remember how to play them.
From touring so much, you get to a spot where
you're like “oh, we've gotta go back and
learn that one!”
No,
it's refreshing, we get to hear five tracks off
the first album which is, surprising.
Well yeah, we know how to play those ones!
Thanks.
Interview by Thom Curtis