From
the back of a leaky tour van Lauren Mullineaux
kicked back with Stephen Davidson of Tellison.
I
guess we should
start at the beginning with how did you form the
band and why?
I started a band on my first day of a new school.
I just decided I was going to be in a proper band
because I’d been in an Iron Maiden cover
band and I kind of thought that’s not for
me, so I started a band with this guy called Rory
and he bizarrely now plays bass for Sting’s
daughter in I Blame Cocoa, but we very quickly
realised Henry was the best drummer in our school
and we knew we had to get him, but he was basically
in the band that became The Kooks and I was like
don’t be in that band come and join mine
we’re going on tour, but we kind of just
messed around for a few years. We did our first
tour in 2005 and we took our sweet time making
our first record it’s always taken us a
long time. So yeah it was a long, convoluted,
and youthful start.
It
took you four years between your first album and
The Wages Of Fear so what have you been doing?
Some dull stuff, some fun stuff. We were still
a band the whole time though and we did some supports
with people ranging from Biffy Clyro to Hot Club
de Paris. Just the dumb stuff really like I was
at university throughout the first record and
so was Pete and we both just graduated me in English
Literature and Pete in History, so that finished
and I realised I had to get a job if I wanted
to stay in England to pay our rent and do real
life stuff. Like I say things have always taken
us quite a while and we really wanted to put out
a record that was good not just a record, but
I guess it was just that dull stuff of getting
a job. We all still work, our band can’t
afford to not work I’m afraid, but it was
just four years of growing up and sorting yourself
out. There were a few aborted attempts to get
a record out, but the team behind us all changed
and the music industry continued to dissolve quietly,
but it just took us a long time to get to a place
we were confortable with and to find the right
people to work with. We just drifted around like
a fine wine.
You
talk about the music industry disintegrating and
I’m sure you must have been offered major
label deals, was that anything to do with your
decision to stay on an indie?
No actually a few sniffed around and we got courted
a little bit, but I mean everything is changing
and as a musician you’re totally aware of
it. Labels did come and speak to us as I think
they do with any band that emerges and gets some
favourable press, I think in the end we were seen
as a risk. We were seen as a band that wasn’t
one thing or another enough. We weren’t
poster-boy indie band or rock band we were sort
of fairly straight up melodic indie rock and I
think people couldn’t work out how to market
us and as such the cheque books never came out
of the pockets.
A
recent review
of your new album criticised you by saying the
album is too good, what do you think about this?
Again I think that’s the fact that we don’t
fall into x camp or y camp, we’re just a
band and I think traditionally people find that
quite hard to cope with. With the press for our
new record we’re not the promising young
upstarts anymore so you have to be like well what’s
this? I’ve read a few reviews that have
been quite divisive. I think the people that have
taken the time to listen to the songs have liked
it. I don’t envy anyone working on a reviews
desk because I’ve seen what they have to
put up with, like PR companies attacking them
and stuff, but you do kind of feel like some reviews
are written maybe after skimming it and when you’ve
spent four years producing something it’s
frustrating that someone will have clearly not
thought about it enough to make any references
that are pertinent. I’ve read a few that
are like this is very awesome, very good, two
out of five. But you know music is all about opinion
and ultimately that’s a good thing so it’s
okay if some people don’t like it. Thankfully
we got all our reviews as we were going out on
tour so we got to be crushed by them a little
bit and then meet lots of people who actually
wanted to come and see us play.
How
has the reception been with the fans on the tour
so far?
Really good, as an offshoot of the whole record
industry changing our record leaked almost six
weeks before the release date and our record label
was freaking out and the most annoying thing about
that was it wasn’t the final cut it was
an advanced press copy that print magazines needed
eight weeks beforehand so the label streamed it
on-line, but as a result a lot of people seem
to know the songs. Touring a new record sometimes
means nobody is singing, but we played a show
the day of release and there were more people
singing to the new songs than there were to the
old songs which is massively gratifying and in
a way does put a very positive spin on the whole
internet release thing.
You
use Twitter quite a lot do you think social media
is necessary now for bands to succeed?
I think so I think in a way that’s always
been there, people always want to talk to bands
they want to know what they’re doing. In
the past that was fanzines and they would just
go and talk to people in the queues and that’s
died down because it costs so much money to print
stuff and people aren’t willing to put the
effort in, weirdly print media seems totally worthless,
but digital media is totally free and is as easy
as pushing a button. It’s something we’ve
always employed; the internet helped us get our
first tour when we were kids, we would just e-mail
people we saw putting on shows in other cities
and one in a hundred would say oh alright you
can open up for us and as a result we started
to make friends. Social media can and does help
and its got more streamlined like micro-blogging
and twitter and I think that’s fun, I mean
there were bands when I was younger that I’d
go and hang out before the show and try and see
in the tour bus and what equipment they were using
and I think Twitter and posting photographs and
Facebook and stuff gives you access to bands in
a similar way I mean everyone’s got the
world in their pocket so why not approach them
through that.
You
make a lot of reference to culture in your music
is it always things that you like and do you do
it for specific reasons?
I don’t know it’s not super conscious
like I’ll put a reference in the second
line of this song, but I like the detective aspect
of bands I listen to and you hear something that
you don’t know what it is and you can go
away and read that book or Wikipedia that name.
I think it’s quite fun to know that stuff
and there’s still bands that I’ve
listened to their album a hundred times and suddenly
it’s like oh shit that’s this. Its
super gratifying if you get it straight off like
I know what that is, like a secret club thing,
but I think that’s fun it’s something
I like in books as well. You know stuff doesn’t
exist in vacuums I think it’s almost normal;
it’s weird to me when people make stuff
that doesn’t reference anything else. I
suppose it shows up in our music because I’m
literary, but that’s when I was doing my
degree and I was just in a little room surrounded
by books and if I was thinking about something
I would be like this is like that thing I just
read and it would just be an easy metaphor. The
detective thing though really appeals to me, I
mean you can get all wanky and theoretical with
it saying it’s like making order out of
chaos, but I just think it’s fun and it’s
nice to have a little depth to art if you can
call rock music art.
What’s
your song writing process like and has it changed
since Pete started singing more?
Well Pete always wrote lots of songs but he’s
super shy about it, I basically bullied him into
sending a piece of demo for our first album which
was just him with a guitar and in his absence
Henry and I decided to make it a Tellison song
and it became ‘Gallery’ the first
single of our first record and it’s nothing
like the demo, but I remember Pete coming into
practice going “what! I recognise that what
have you done?” This time round we’ve
been more conscious that Pete has songs, in sound
check he’ll always be playing a little riff
and if you stop him and go what’s that the
first four times he’ll ignore you and then
fifth time he’ll go “it’s just
a little something” and we basically locked
him in a room and went play us a song. I’m
not sure what Pete’s song writing process
is like, but we never really write together at
the minute. I just write with an electric guitar
in my room.
You
mention Henry in a few songs where does he go?
Well yeah Henry is like a man of mystery he lives
quite a cool lifestyle. His grandfather was the
sculptor Henry Moore and so Henry basically works
for the Henry Moore Foundation and a lot of the
time he has to go and talk about art so he gets
to go to Venice and Russia. Quite often when he
goes away weird stuff will go down. During the
first record I was living with him so when he
left I was on my own in this massive house in
Hammersmith and usually I would have a good time
or a terrible time. ‘Horses’ on this
record I think is the first song we wrote and
it has the line ‘Henry goes back to Boston’
where he was at uni and I was on my own in Scotland
and Henry had left the country and Pete had gone
and got a job in a bookshop and couldn’t
do any more band things till he got some money
and Andy was just hanging out and I thought are
we even going to be a band again, I was freaking
out about it. He’s just a pretty amazing
guy to have in your band; his girlfriend and his
sister think I’m in love with him, but I
don’t do it on purpose it just lands in
a song.
You
might have a solo album coming out is that still
happening?
Yeah. Well this is another thing that happened
during the four years of not making a record.
I wrote a bunch of songs and a guy called Luke
Leighfield was like “oh we should record
some of these” and I did some shows on my
own, but then we did nothing with it so I had
like 15 solo songs sitting around and then the
guy that recorded it said we should finish it
and offered to do it for free which is amazing.
Hopefully that might happen in the next couple
of weeks, but knowing our band something might
arise and that might not happen. Some of my favourite
singer songwriters are people that just play on
their own, it lets the words really be at the
forefront of what you’re doing, I’m
always interested when I play on my own to try
and work out how to make people shut up and listen
to what you’re doing. I’m always intrigued
when I see someone who manages to get the crowd
to be quiet and listen to what they’re doing
because there is something insanely amazing about
someone just talking or singing a little song
and everyone actually listening to it.
Does
anybody else in the band have any side projects
going on?
I think everyone except Pete has been in bands
on and off, I mean we stole Pete from his own
band, I nicked him and ruined their band. Henry
has been drumming for all sorts of people, I think
he was asked to be Ellie Goulding’s drummer
at one point and he was like “no, no, I’m
in Tellison,” but he was drumming for an
electro band called Alpines who are very good.
Andy has played bass for a lot of people, in Kingston-Upon-
Thames the scene is a little bit incestuous everyone
is in everyone else’s band and when somebody
needs a bass player he does that. He does solo
shows too, I asked him to join based on an E.P
he sent me, he’s a little bit like Dave
House, and I thought it was really good. Everyone
dabbles a bit, but I’m the most active.
You
had some songs featured on The Inbetweeners what
was that like?
Weird. At first I was really ashamed actually,
we were on the first episode and I watched it
and went “aww no” I just wasn’t
sure if I was in to it. We had been on a few other
E4 things that had just basically nose-dived so
the first season of The Inbetweeners kind of came
and went and nobody really cared and I think when
they repeated the first season people took notice.
It’s kind of cool that we were on a soundtrack
with Justin Timberlake and Belle and Sebastian
and The Cure and it’s such a famous thing
as well if you wanted to show off you could go
“my bands on The Inbetweeners by the way.”
People have definitely found the band through
it. I’m fairly comfortable with it and I’m
glad that we got the opportunity to do it.
What
do you see happening for Tellison next?
Hopefully we’re going to get the record
out in Europe and the plan is to try and get the
first album out there as well and then if we’re
lucky further afield in America. Creatively I’ve
written a few news songs already, I suppose we
did the bulk of recording for this album a year
ago now, so I’ve got a few different ideas
brewing and I know Pete does too. After this tour
finishes we’re planning to get some time
to go and just write and try and make sure it’s
not another four years before the next album.
We also have some culinary things planned for
the future, we want a food and cocktails cookbook,
but we’re trying to figure out how to best
market that because we’re not sure our fan
base would be interested.
Interview by Lauren Mullineaux