James
caught up with Frank Turner during his headline
tour which stopped off at Wiolverhampton to talk
about the tour, his new album, summer festivals
and much more.
You
are currently on a massive sold out tour across
the UK, how does it feel knowing that these shows
sold out so far in advanced?
Really good, makes me feel like I’m doing
something right in my life. It was quite exciting
actually the day the tickets went on sale because
I was getting text messages from my booking agent
and eventually she just started sending me names
of towns so I would know that one was sold out.
That made me feel really good; the only problem
is that people who want a ticket couldn’t
get one, the vibe of the tour was to be retro
playing smaller venues, people not getting tickets
troubles me slightly but we’ve got another
UK tour later in the year so people can get a
ticket to that.
How
have the shows been so far?
It’s fun, it’s a nice change for me.
When we do shows with the band everything’s
generally regimented, we have a pretty strict
set list run a song into another and everything’s
planned; so it’s nice to get on stage and
not really have too much idea what I’m going
play, tell stories, fall over drunk, it’s
quite liberating the band shows are meant to be
the way they are but this is a nice change.
Ben
Marwood and Franz Nicolay are supporting you on
the tour, were these handpicked by yourself? And
what have they been like to tour with?
I always handpick the support bands; it’s
something I’m quite bothered about. I feel
if somebody pays money to see a show I’m
not just responsible for my set but for the whole
show and atmosphere; that covers everything from
making sure there’s merchandise and it’s
not too expensive, I talk to the security every
night to tell them I don’t like arseholes
manhandling the crowd and a major part of the
show is the other acts. Ben has been a friend
of mine for years and I’ve been meaning
to take him on tour for a long time now to the
point where there were a couple tours he was meant
to be on but it didn’t work out all of which
made me feel like a terrible arsehole. Bringing
him on this tour I feel like I’m writing
a great wrong; Franz and I met about a year ago,
he used to play for The Hold Steady which are
one of my favourite bands. We did a show together
in San Francisco and he was playing solo; I’ll
admit I was worried it was going to be crap, when
you see him prepare to have your mind fucked,
he has one of the most interesting and exciting
solo acts around right now.
Have
any of the shows on the tour stood out more than
others so far?
The show at Lancaster Library was absolutely spot
on. It was literally in the library and there
wasn’t a bar in there, obviously people
had been drinking round the corner. It was one
of those shows where everybody was pin drop silent
all the way through which I like because you get
chatty crowds especially in Scotland bless them;
but it can get quite annoying when people are
shouting over you when telling a story or singing
a quiet song but for the most part on this tour
the crowds have been great.
You
played some of the biggest shows of your life
last year opening up for Green Day and Wembley
Stadium and Manchester Cricket Club, how did you
find that?
Pretty nuts. It’s funny I’ve been
touring for a long time and I’m not trying
to sound jaded or anything like that but it is
not often I get to do things that are new to me.
I’ve never been around anything that has
been like the operation that is Greenday’s
live show. The band and crew were really sweet
and cool to work with but we arrived and it was
like “fuck me this is huge”; it had
a backstage city we had passes that got us into
some of it but not all of it. We had a briefing
with their pyrotechnic guy and he said “If
there’s a red line on the ground don’t
walk across it because you’ll get blown
up”. Then the funniest thing at Manchester
Greenday ran on to what they call a “Shotgun
Blast” and we weren’t expecting it;
everyone dropped their beers and screamed “Fucking
hell!” we were scared of being on stage.
You
are pretty much on the road touring from now right
until the end of August, what do you get upto
on the road between shows to pass time?
Generally catching up on sleep and showering,
showering is good. I read a lot; watch a lot of
HBO TV shows like The Wire which are great for
touring as they kill a lot of time. I’m
a guy that reads a lot of book at the same time,
I’m reading like 3 at the moment slightly
does my head in getting plot lines confused. I
do crosswords and read the paper terribly rock
and roll things, we’re actually booked through
till this time next year but we haven’t
announced those legs yet.
You
have been booked to play Download Festival, how
do you find playing such a heavy rock festival?
It’s a left field booking on their part.
I think it’s cool, originally they wanted
me to play half way up the main stage on the Sunday
and I said no fucking way; that’s a recipe
for disaster I’d just get bottled with piss.
It’s like a red rag to a bull; hold up an
acoustic guitar to a crowd of bored metal heads
and its like “THROW PISS, THROW PISS”.
They asked me then headline the third stage and
I said yes it’s a weird one but it’s
going to be good. Something that really tickled
me was when I first got announced I spent a little
while on the message boards and all these “Slayerfan_72”
people saying “Frank Turner playing download?!
What a fucking cock!” and also when we got
announced as third stage headliners people that
have a problem with the whole reading thing saying
“Why the fuck is Frank turner headlining
download?! This is stupid and disgusting and I
hate it!” You beautiful human being, I bet
you’ve got an undercut ha ha!
You
are playing the main stage of the Reading and
Leeds Festival this year just after Taking Back
Sunday, this is an amazing opportunity for you
and something you must be extremely excited about?
The first big musical event I ever went to was
Reading ’95; I just remember running in
and seeing Beck playing the same spot I’ve
got this year. That was 16 years ago and it feels
pretty fucking good to have that spot. I went
to Reading for years and years, Leeds is good
too but Reading was like my festival. I don’t
want to sound like I’m blowing smoke up
my own arse but at the same time like I’m
so fucking cool that it doesn’t mean something
to me to be playing the main stage at Reading
festival, that’s fucking awesome!
You
have been working on your new studio album ‘England
Keep My Bones’ for some time now, how excited
are you to finally be releasing it on the 6th
June?
Can’t fucking wait. One of the things about
the music world generally, there’s always
the time lag between finishing the record and
releasing it. I understand why the time lag is
there but it’s frustrating because since
March when we finished it all I’ve wanted
to do is run around with an iPod and force people
to listen to it because I’m really proud
of it. Out 2 weeks tomorrow and I can’t
fucking wait.
What
themes and stories are featured on the album this
time around?
Lots of stuff, I think there are 2 overarching
themes to the record. Incidentally I don’t
write towards themes they just become apparent
afterwards. England is definitely a theme, not
in a nationalist flag waving “aren’t
we fucking great” kind of way but in more
of a reflective way, something I think about a
lot. Death is another one, not quite sure why
because I’m in quite good health but it
just seems to be something that’s on the
mind; there’s also songs about my friend
dealing substance abuse, God, my grandma, lots
of stuff also about the death of King William
the second!
What
would you say the main standout tracks from the
album are?
This is going to be a naff answer but it’s
true. I don’t feel like there was any filler
on this record I’m happy with all of the
songs.
What’s
your take on the digital revelation killing off
the music business?
Well, how long have you got? Ok the thing is the
way that music is recorded, delivered, promoted,
spread around and listened to had changed quite
rapidly and still is. There’s nothing inherently
wrong with that I do this because I like music.
There’s a concern because it took 30 years
after the business model was made for the artists
to stop getting fucked over. It took a lot of
long legal battles by Michael Jackson, George
Michael and The Beatles for people to stop getting
screwed over, the early Motown and punk bands
got royally screwed. I know a lot of people that
work their fingers to the bone and care so much
about spreading good music to people and people
have started taking from them and not giving anything
back which is bullshit.
Social
network sites seem to be a big tool in the music
industry these days, with artists communicating
with their fans over it and some even ditching
their own website and having just a social network
page, what are your opinions on social networks
as tools in the music industry?
I think its pretty cool. People kind of get gooey
eyed about saving up their pennies and getting
vinyl delivered from America for half price. It
amazes me that if you told me about a band I could
hear their music in 30 seconds on my phone. When
I was growing up it was unheard of what we did
was cross reference thanks lists, if we had 3
punk CD’s and they all thanked a particular
band we’d go and get a CD by that band and
do it that way. I love that people can just listen
to whatever they want at any time now its opened
doors. Also I’d have no social life if it
wasn’t for Facebook so that’s good.
Where
do you hope to see yourself in a year’s
time?
On the road; In fact I know I’ll be on the
road I could probably tell you exactly where.
I’m not touring as much as I do to get anywhere
I’m doing it because I don’t want
to be doing anything else.
One
last random question that we ask every band, if
you could be an animal out of a zebra or Giraffe
which one would you be and why?
I’d be a giraffe; zebra’s always struck
me as shit horses. My friend had this thing about
running into a zoo painting all of their black
stripes white and then suing them for false advertising.
Fact of the day for you, you can’t ride
zebra’s; if you got on them to ride them
it would break their backs, horses were bred to
have backs strong enough for that so they’re
just shit horses. Now giraffes are pretty cool,
you can reach high stuff; you could stand on the
other side of a fence at a music festival and
check shit out.
Thanks
for your time is there a message for your fans
reading this?
I don’t like the word fan so people reading,
hi how you doing? See you at the show!
Interview By James Webb