James
caught up with Doug Pinnick from King's X in Wolverhampton
to talk about the bands 30 year career, plans
for the future and much more.
You
have been together as a band for over 30 years
now, what would you say your main high and low
points have been so far?
Our lowest point was probably when we couldn’t
get a gig, our highest point? We’ve had
a lot of high points; Woodstock ’94 playing
for 300,000 people, touring with AC/DC for 4 months
which was just... I watched them every night too
and they took us out to dinner, I got to jam with
them because Angus couldn’t make sound check
and neither could the bassist so they asked me
to fill in.
When
you first started out many people labelled you
as a Christian band which you have never considered
yourself as, how did this make you feel and have
you shook that tag off now?
Nah we never considered ourselves as that, when
we started out we were Christians and had that
belief so it was reflected in the music. Over
the years though we don’t believe in anything
anymore, I’m pretty much agnostic, atheist
and I believe in aliens. Aliens are coming back,
if you replace all religious teachings with aliens;
all encounters with gods angels and everything
else, replace that with aliens and it all makes
sense ha ha!
When
you formed the band did you ever think you would
still be going as a band over 30 years later?
I never thought I would or wouldn’t. I’ve
been doing this all my life when we got together
we’d just been playing and playing, we never
think about that. The only thing that’ll
slow us down is we’re getting older, I’m
60 and eventually my body isn’t going to
be able to do it anymore; like I tell people we’ll
be there in our wheelchairs and walkers “Give
me my bass!”, we’ll keep tuning lower
ha ha!
After
so long of touring over the years does it ever
get too much for you? Is it hard being away from
home for so long?
Not anymore, for me it’s not. We’ve
been doing this for so long we’ve worked
all the bugs out so all the arguing, fighting
and all the problems have been gone for years
now. I love touring; I think the only thing that
will stop us will be if people stop coming to
see us, if they’re not coming why play?
We’ll figure something else to do but it
will always be music.
You
released your last studio album ‘XV’
back in 2008 are you happy with how it has gone
down with your fans and the press since the release?
I think so, I didn’t pay attention. Again
we’ve been doing it for so long, my friends
will say “Are you excited to go on tour?”
and I’ll be like “Oh yeah right I’m
going on tour tomorrow, oh ok” it’s
like getting up and going to work every day I
like my job so I just go do it and smile when
I’m done. Then I’m like “Oh
was it a good day? Did we do a good show? It was
ok. Did the crowd love it? Yeah” so ok keep
going if they didn’t then we’ll have
to fix this or that.
What
would you say your favourite song from the album
is and why?
I really don’t have one. I think a lot of
people’s favourite song was “Pray
for me”. That song was about Christians
will always come to me saying “Come back
to God, come back to Jesus, we’re praying
for you, we hope you come back to the fold”.
So I say ok, I don’t know what to say to
them so I decided to write a song about it. I
touch all Catholics, Christians, the Jewish religion
and the Muslim religion and say if you believe
then pray for me that’s it, let me go live
my life everyone can be happy that way. If I come
back to the fold it means they’re prayer
was answered and if not it doesn’t mean
anything because I’m not coming back anyway
ha ha!
Have
you started work on a follow up to the album?
And if so what can we expect from it?
Well what we do is keep writing all the time.
I’ve probably got about 20 new songs but
I’m not sure King’s X is going to
do them. We’re thinking about just getting
together the 3 of us and just wiping the slate
clean and writing a record with no preconceived
demos or anything like that. The other songs I’ll
put them on the solo record or something.
Do
you find it easier to create new music now you
are older and have been through the process many
times?
We’re more concerned about repeating ourselves
and not trying to recreate something we did a
long time ago; we’re not the same people
or the same band anymore so we never know what
we’re going to do, we never know how the
records going to come out so we just get together
and it’s like “That was fun, that
was different” then fans will say, “I
like that record” or “I don’t
like that one” well that’s the way
it’s supposed to be.
Now
you have so much material do you find it hard
picking a set list?
Yeah, the easiest way we do it is we pick the
easiest songs to play. If it’s hard to play
live we don’t go for it ha ha!
What
do you have planned once this tour comes to an
end in London on Tuesday?
Going home, probably work on a new record. I’m
going to work on a new solo record; I have another
side project with 2 guys from Fishbone and 2 guys
from 21st Century Spies called Anti-Nigger Machine,
it’s an all black band so we’ll work
on that. I just came off the road with a side
project with 2 guys from Pearl Jam called Tres
Mts, we got off the road with them 2 days before
I came on the road with King’s X so I’m
just out playing having a good time.
You
have shared the stage with many bands in the past
but who has been your favourite band to play with
so far?
I guess AC/DC was number one; but every band we’ve
played for we’ve had a great time and they’ve
been good people. We did scorpions, Pearl Jam
and we did a show with Alice in Chains a long
time ago; goodness we’ve toured with a lot
of people I can’t even think, but AC/DC
was the best.
What’s
your take on the digital revelation killing off
the music business?
Oh god, it killed it. I look at it this way since
the internet came everyone has the chance to listen
to all the great music that there has ever been.
So for the next 10 years I say let everyone digest
this new music because its new to them because
in another 10 years there will be another revolution
of music. When the young kids decide what they
really want and they have a voice, be out there
doing it like we did and like everyone else did;
right now the music industry sucks. Nobody wants
to buy anything because they want it free. I think
the rules have changed what it is nowadays you
give your music away and you charge them to come
see you and buy your merchandise and that’s
how we make a living now. As for record sales
that’s over I think, just give that shit
away now ha ha!
Social
network sites seem to be a big tool in the music
industry these days, with artists communicating
with their fans over it and some even ditching
their own website and having just a social network
page, what are your opinions on social networks
as tools in the music industry?
You know it’s a really cool thing. Like
I said before we don’t have control over
it and nobody knows what’s really going
to happen but it’s a revolution; it’s
changing everything, the playing ground has been
levelled. We’ve got to figure out how to
do it all over again, which is really cool because
the record companies and the corporations dominated
everything and controlled everything we did, nobody
made any money. The rich kept getting richer and
we kept putting out records but now we have a
chance to make it on our own. When we figure it
out I hope it’s going to be good.
Where
do you hope to see King’s X in a year’s
time?
I stopped hoping. We did just about everything
that there is to do but have a number 1 record;
we’ve got to do lots of things, we’ve
got a lot of fans who love us so I just want to
carry on doing what we’re doing. The adventure
continues, I look at it as an adventure you don’t
know what you’re going to get. When people
your age come and hang out to talk to us it means
a lot you have no idea, because we’re an
old band.
One
last random question that we ask every band, if
you could be an animal out of a zebra or Giraffe
which one would you be and why?
Let me think about this... I guess I’d be
a zebra, because a giraffe’s neck is too
long I don’t know what I would do with that.
Also because I’m biracial and the nickname
for biracial people is zebra so yeah, I’ll
be a zebra.
Thanks
for your time is there a message for your fans
reading this?
We love you, we love you, and we love you. Thank
you for being there for us and your support. We’ll
always be thankful they are the best, they really
are. There was this poll on a rock website “Who
has the most rabid fans” and it was King’s
X unanimous we don’t have a lot of them
but they’re crazy, you’ll see in there.
They like to sing a lot and get excited there’s
no slam dancing or violence it’s a love
fest but they love to sing.
Interview By James Webb