Ben
caught up with Baz Warne from The Stranglers for
a chat about his time in the band, plans for the
future and so much more.
You’re
UK tour starts on Friday, how has the preparation
been going so far?
Baz Warne (Guitar/Vocals): It’s been
going very well, we’ve had probably about
a month to six weeks of intense rehearsals.
Because this tour isn’t actually promoting
anything per se, we’re just touring because
we want to, it’s been a bit more exciting,
we’ve pulled some old chestnuts out of
the fire so to speak. The set list is going
to be a bit broader than perhaps it’s
been for the past couple of years.
So
do you feel more relaxed about this tour seeing
as you’re not actually promoting anything?
Baz: There possibly is an element of that,
yeah. With the first two or three gigs of any
tour you’re always trying to find your
feet, whether it’s trying to find out
whether the set is working or whether some songs
need to be moved or replaced, but once you get
into your stride and relax a bit it’s
fine. But with this tour we’re just going
to be playing a lot of songs just for fun, I
think it’s going to be fun and we’re
really looking forward to it.
Does
the band find it more difficult to prepare for
a month of shows now, seeing as you do have a
drummer over 70 years old?br>
Baz: I’m only 46, so I’m just a
boy really! Yeah, I guess it does. The older
everyone gets, the more constraints it puts
on things and the more time you have to spend
getting everything right. Once you hit the road
and you’re out there you’d be amazed
how sprightly a 70 year old drummer can be!
For a lot of the songs we play it’s muscle
memories, you run through it a few times and
you think, ‘Ahh, that’s how it goes!’
So yeah, it takes a little longer, but hopefully
the results will be worth it.
What’s
the touring lifestyle like now for The Stranglers?
Baz: In bed by ten with a warm mug of cocoa!
Just kidding, we travel around in relatively
nice vehicles, we have to eat at specific times
because when you’re singing full-blown
at nine o’clock it takes four to five
hours to digest, so sometimes we need to meet
mid-afternoon. So we generally find somewhere
to eat, relax for a few hours, go and do a sound
check, relax some more and then we play! All
the gigs on this tour are selling out, so it’s
going to be really exciting. I read a lot about
bands who fracture mid-tour and fight and argue
and everything, If you can’t keep yourself
together for two hours of every day then there’s
something wrong. You’ve got 22 hours to
look after yourself, to relax and make sure
you’re well fed, and if you can’t
keep yourself straight to play for two hours
to play to two and a half thousand people who
have all paid good money, then there’s
something wrong. So I think that the real ethos
of what we do is just to look after ourselves.
If you’re talking about sex, drugs and
rock and roll…then we have our moments,
don’t you worry!
What
kinds of people come to see The Stranglers now?
Is it still the same old faces, or are there a
lot of new fans?
Baz: It’s a very, very healthy mixture
of both. We see all the old faces, The Stranglers
fans are very loyal, very partisan and have
been for thirty five years. What you do see
now is the old fans who are now parents bring
their kids along, they still listen to The Stranglers
at home and it rubs off on their kids. To be
honest it’s a massive cross section, there
are a lot of lads of about sixteen down at the
front watching my fingers, just like I used
to do. Obviously you’ve still got the
healthy turn out of women, but it’s right
across the board. There’s a lot of old
punks, people from the mid to late 70s, who
come for the nostalgia, but we play a lot of
new material, so we still feel like we’ve
got something relative to say and that’s
probably why we get a lot of youngsters. It’s
very heartening to look out and see all of these
different cross sections of age groups and people.
Do
you think that the popularity of current guitar
bands has inspired younger generations to get
into The Stranglers?
Baz: I think there’s some element of
truth to that, when you’ve been involved
in music as long as we have then you definitely
see trends going in circles. Guitar bands were
the thing in the mid to late 70s with the punk
explosion, in the 80s you couldn’t seen
anybody playing them, then in the early 90s
you’ve obviously got the grunge thing
and Sub Pop with Nirvana and Mudhoney and all
of those bands. It kind of hasn’t gone
away since then, I think that you have to turn
over more rocks and look a little bit deeper
to find really great music makers now, because
there’s a lot of sanitised dross. Even
guitar bands are being accused of being manufactured
pop-puppets, we don’t need to name names,
but you know who these people are. There are
hundreds and hundreds of bands out there, you
just have to look a lot harder to find the good
stuff. We’ve never gone away, people respect
the music. When people come and see us live,
they see four old guys who really can give some
of the younger boys a run for their money! You
stand and you look to the side of the stage
at Glastonbury or V Festival and you see some
of the younger bands, The Feeling, the Kaiser
Chiefs and the Stereophonics, all stood with
their chins on their chests as they’re
watching us, that’s very gratifying!
Does
the band still get the same buzz from playing
live after all these years?
Baz: Absolutely, playing live is where it’s
at. I know a lot of bands in the past have recorded
before they’ve actually even done a gig,
but I wouldn’t say that’s lucky.
You need to go and play live, that’s why
you’re in a band in the first place, that’s
what you do it for. We still get a massive kick
out of it, if we didn’t then we wouldn’t
do it anymore. Obviously you get more excited
about different songs, there are certain songs
that we have to play and we play them every
single night, but we count ourselves very lucky
to still be doing it.
How
do people react when they hear you play songs
like ‘Peaches’ or ‘Golden Brown’?
Baz: The roof comes off! ‘Golden Brown’
is the biggest radio hit the band ever had,
so you get your Joe Punter, who isn’t
necessarily the biggest Stranglers fan, but
they’ll know that song. People still love
it, which we’re very grateful for.
So
you’ve been in the band for over a decade
now, how did it feel entering a band with such
a huge legacy as The Stranglers?
Baz: It all happened very quickly, the guitarist
that they had at the time left under a cloud
and they had gigs and tours coming up. If they’d
have advertised publicly then hundreds of people
would have turned up, many of which probably
couldn’t play very well, so that would
have been a huge waste of time and money. What
they did was get in touch with seven or eight
people that they knew, one of which was me.
I was on the dole, I had to get my backside
from Newcastle to London, so I borrowed one
hundred quid off a mate of mine and went down
on the train and I got the gig on the spot.
My feet never really touched the ground, it
was only after we’d finished the tours
and got into the festival season when I became
aware of huge legions of travelling fans wanting
to see who the new guy was! I remember at one
gig going out to the front to watch Shane MacGowan
or someone like that thinking, ‘nobody’s
going to know me’, and I got mobbed! It
was very quick, I didn’t really have time
to think about it and by the time I did pause
for reflection, I’d already been in the
band a year. It just felt like the most natural
thing in the world and it still does.
Do
you still see the friend who gave you that £100?
Baz: Yes I do! He’s emigrated over to
New Zealand now, but he’s still my best
pal and I speak to him very, very regularly.
He only lent it to me under the condition that
he could come to London as well, so it’s
nice that he’s been a part of it too!
You
played several festivals last summer, including
Glastonbury, do you have anything planned for
this summer?
Baz: Late February to early March is generally
when the festival offers start coming through.
We’re doing two or three smaller ones
in the UK, but to be honest with you I can’t
even remember where they are! I know there’s
one in the North East, which I’m quite
pleased about. We’ve got festivals in
Spain, Greece and we’re going to Dubai,
so I think it’s going to be a busy year.
I’ve
read that you’ve been working on a new album,
how are you finding the process?
Baz: We’re actually starting to get a
picture of how the album’s going to look,
there are a lot of songs in the pot now. JJ
(Jean- Jacques Burnel, Bass/Vocals) and myself
have been down in the West Country, in Bath
for the past two months in a house writing and
demo-ing; it’s a slow, gradual process.
With a band like this it would be very easy
to rehash and retrace, but we want to progress
whilst staying within the framework if that
makes sense? We know a thing or two about writing
records, we’ll be recording around May
and June, so all the songs are just in demo
form at the moment, but we consider them to
be bonafide Stranglers classics, so we’re
very pleased.
You’re
often described as the last remaining band of
the punk rock movement, what do you think it is
that gives The Stranglers the longevity to outlive
so many other bands?
Baz: I think it’s simply fantastic songs
and very original as well, The Stranglers come
on the radio and within the first five seconds
you’re in no doubt as to who it is. There’s
so many bands around today that you couldn’t
say that about, but The Stranglers have always
had that very strange, growling bass guitar,
bubbling keyboards and great melodies. Back
in the day they were bad boys as well, and that
never hurts. They were all pretty good looking
and a little bit older, frankly they didn’t
give a damn and I think there’s something
in that which people find endearing. As a consequence,
35 years later, maybe with the exception of
The Damned, The Stranglers are the only band
that I can think of that never actually broke
up. The Stranglers formed in 1974 and have been
together ever since, didn’t break up and
get back together for money. There are plenty
of bands from back then that were timeless classics,
but got attracted by the lure of the dirty dollar,
The Stranglers have never done that, it’s
a way of life.
In
the time you’ve been with the band can you
name any highlights that you’ve had?
Baz: In recent times one will certainly have
to be last years Glastonbury, I don’t
think any of us were expecting 80,000 people
to come and watch us! And in a lot of the reviews
I read of the festival, we were cited as one
of the top three bands to have seen across the
weekend, that’s very pleasing. I believe
that the same time slot the year before was
taken by Lady Gaga, and she apparently had half
of what we had. I’ve played some very,
very big festivals before, sometimes to 150
to 175,000 people, but this was special because
it was a warm, sunny day in England. The only
downside was that we had to go to Poland for
a gig the next day, so I didn’t get to
stick around. Other highlights would be the
two albums that the band have written, recorded
and released with me as a member. I suppose
getting the gig in the first place is a major
highlight, I remember sitting in the back of
a taxi in London going back to King’s
Cross to get the train home and ringing my wife
and telling her that our lives had changed forever.
What
does the future hold in store for The Stranglers?
Baz: The rest of this year will be taken up
with the tour, then we’ve got some acoustic
shows which we love doing, we augment the line
up with a percussion player, so that’s
in Belgium and Holland in April. May and June
will be taken up with recording. June, July
and August will hopefully be festival time and
then we’ve got this huge convention taking
place in London in November which we need to
prepare for. Then in the new year, when the
album’s out there will be a huge worldwide
tour, so we’re looking for the next year
to eighteen months to be really busy, but that’s
what you want isn’t it?
Interview By Ben Connell