Rob
caught up with Robin Staps from The Ocean back
stage at Birmingham Academy to talk about their
new voalist, releasing two albums in one year,
being robbed in Spain and much more.
Hello
and thank you for taking time out to do this interview!
You
are due to release your new album ‘Anthropocentric’
on the 9th November, how did you find writing
and recording the album and are you excited to
finally be releasing it?
(Robin Staps) We recorded a lot of it in the same
session as the Heliocentric session, you all the
guitar and drum parts, and this year we recorded
the vocals, and then mixed and mastered it this
year, so we knew where it was going basically.
I had written the material that had ended up on
Heliocentric in a short space of time and at the
same time Jona had written other songs that didn't
fit into that album, and it was a lot of material
that we didn't want to drown the listener, so
we split it into 2 albums, this project has taken
about 2 years to do and we are happy with it.
We have one track left over that didn't fit well
into the albums, it will be released at some point
next year.
What
are the themes and stories featured on the new
album?
Its the second part of the critique of religion
concept that started with heliocentric so its
continuing that, with heliocentric we went with
a historical chronological approach starting with
original texts from the bible then moving on to
the Copernican Revolution the discoveries of Copernicus
and Galileo, that the earth isn't the centre of
the universe as Christianity proclamates and it
finishes with Charles Darwin and his origin of
the species book and Richard Dawkins. With this
album, were taking a more personal approach with
quotes in the lyrics, from Nietzsche which is
in 3 of the songs , Parallel Threat,is based on
Fjodor Dostoyevsky's novel, The Brothers Karamasov,
especially the chapter on the Grand Inquisitor,
which is a conversation between an atheist and
a monk discussing the theodesy problem, almost
all of the lyrics are making reference to that.
basically its the about the question of where
is mans place in the universe and the lyrics are
circling these questions.
How
would you say the new album compares to your previous
material?
The most striking difference is probably is the
addition of our now new vocalist Loic Rossetti
on these two new records, The ocean has a new
voice, its a big change, the way he approaches
vocals is different to our previous vocalist,
95 percent of the vocals were screaming and Loic
has a really good singing voice, so we wanted
to add that to the songs, we were looking for
that when we were looking for a new vocalist,
we wanted a versatile guy who can do death metal
grunts to solid really souly singing, it took
an awful long time to find someone who is able
to do that, but Loic is that someone, were very
very happy with him, that's the most striking
change. Another change is that we have consolidated
as a band, we have a steady line up now, that
was never the case before, we were more loosely
organized collective, with changing members all
the time, that has its advantages and its disadvantages,
the advantages are thats its good to have different
people and that we would have 4 guitarists in
the band but never more than 2 live, but on the
other side its makes rehearsals more difficult,
it slows down the progress and moving forward
of the band, now with these people in the band
I feel that I've found the musicians that I was
looking for a long time, I trust them, I don't
program anything any more like I used to, I trust
them as musicians to come up with there own stuff,
Luc is a better drummer than I can program. There
having a lot more input, everyone is a lot more
involved in every thing, It sounds more like a
band playing rather than a random collection of
ideas.
In
the past you have had some fantastic reviews for
your releases, are reviews important to you as
a band?
Were pretty confident about what we do, and of
course I pay attention to what people are saying
because im interested but on the other hand I
don't really give a shit, usually the albums that
get the best press are the least successful albums,
and vice verse. We've had two good press for Precambrian,
and heliocentric had some good press too, I haven't
seen too many reviews for the new album, just
a few German reviews. Like I said I'm interested
in the reviews, but it doesn't affect me in the
way I approach the music
Who
would you say your main musical influences are?
Thats impossible to answer, you'd have to ask
the rest of the band, I come from a hardcore
background, I didn't really listen to metal
till I was 21, Loic is into 70s prog kraut stuff,
jazz, he's also a huge Maynard James Keenan
and Trent Reznor fan. We all come from different
back grounds but we all have bands that we can
agree on, like new roses, Converge, Dillinger
Escape plan stuff like that.
How
has new vocalist Loic Rossetti settled into the
band? And how have the fans taken to the change
of vocalists?
He gained a lot of confidence on this years
tours, by playing every night, he's gained a
lot of confidence in his voice, its stronger,
more brutal in the scream parts, when he joined
the band, he barley spoke any English, so we
had to struggle a lot on heliocentric, doing
certain phrases over and over again because
of pronunciation issues, that was painful because
we couldn't focus on getting the best take,
now he's progressed a lot, he's speaks alright
English now, but he still has a lot learn, he
doesn't feel comfortable talking to the crowd,
but were not that sort of band anyway, that
needs a vocalist that talks to the crowd. You
can tell from his performance that he's grown
in confidence
I understand
that you had a spot of bad luck in Spain where
you got robbed, can you tell us more about this?
What happened is that we were on te Highway
going between Bilbao and Madrid, we were about
30 km away from Madrid, we got pulled over by
a black BMW, the guy in the passenger seat put
a police badge up against his window, they pulled
us over, at that point we were more worried
about hiding our weed than whether they were
real cops, no one was sceptical because its
happened a few times before, it wasn't police,
the guy came to my window asked for the papers
for the car and if we had any money to declare,
and even then we didn't doubt if they were real
because when you cross boarders you have declare
large amounts of money, so I told him we have
some merch cash were a touring band, he wanted
to see it, and as soon as I opened the wallet
he reached through the open window and grabbed
it, and ran away and they took off. We couldn't
match them for speed. There car was stolen.
We've started the pre order for our new album,
we are asking everyone who is planning to order
Anthropocentric in the next few weeks through
our shop to help out. You can do so by donating
5 Euro when you place your order.
Everyone who donates 5 Euro will receive a copy
of the police report and a Thank You card signed
by all band members. You can donate at: www.pelagic-records.com/shop
You
are currently on tour in the UK with The Dillinger
Escape Plan and Rolo Tomassi how have you found
them to tour with?
This only our second show on this tour, it was
good, We were lucky to be able to run our full
production on this show, which we weren't able
to do so before, because Dillinger s light obstruct
our screen normally, tonight they had problems
with there computer so we were able to run our
visuals tonight. As I said to you before the
interview, I'm not a fan touring in the UK much,
because you get treated like shit in venues
here, everywhere else in Europe you get decent
food, and we got here a warm fridge wit warm
Stella and two bags of crisps. In places like
Poland and Slovakia your made to feel welcome
in these places. The shows are good though,
I have lots of friends over here, for that angle
its good to come here, I'm looking forward to
the next few days though. Touring with Dillinger
is fucking awesome though, Ive been a fan of
this band for 10-12 years and to able to watch
them night after night is pretty cool, there
cool guys. Loic is guesting on one of there
songs, and one of there guys is guesting on
the keys on one of our songs too.
Where
would you like to see yourself this time next
year?
Were gonna be touring massively next year, Were
gonna be doing a headlining run for about 3
weeks, but were probably gonna skip the UK on
that one, there's also some things I cant tell
either, but we will be back over here specifically
for the secret reason. And touring in the US
too.
One
last random question that we ask every band, if
you could be an animal out of a Zebra and a Giraffe
which one would you be and why?
A what? I defiantly want to be a giraffe, they
move with an amazing grace, with there head
in the clouds.
Thanks
for your time, do you have an message for your
fans reading this?
If you want to help out, please donate at our
webshop,www.pelagic-records.com/shop, take a
chance to check us out when were on this shitty
island( laughs)
Interview By Robert Lawrence