Thom
caught up Sam and Craig from Twin Atlantic to
talk about how the band started, touring with
Biffy Clyro, Smashing Pumpkins, Enter Shikari
and so much more.
So,
I'm going to start at the beginning. You're from
Glasgow...
(Sam) Yes.
What
is the music scene there like? I know a few years
ago it was quite indie focussed, or maybe that
was just what was making it out of the city?
(Sam) The thing is there's not
A music scene, there's several. And they all mix
together. It's not like other cities. It's being
so far away from the main hub of London, the general
central focus of the UK, whatever, people tend
to have more comradery about, like, not an indie
scene or a metal scene – everyone just sort
of knows each other. I don't know it's hard to
explain, but there's loads of bars you'd go to
if you were a band starting out and wanted to
play to people who cared about music – and
because of that everyone congregates in the same
areas so...
And
you were all in other bands before Twin Atlantic,
is that how you all met?
(Sam) Well that's what happened.
(Craig) I played with Ross's
old band and knew the band and I knew Sam from
working in one of the bars.
(Sam) Yeah I worked in one of
the bars where his band played.
(Craig) You played an acoustic
set too?
(Sam) Let's not talk about that.
I was given a really shit guitar to play it was
terrible. And that was your first impression of
me as a musician. But it's really cool in that
way, there's three or four main things but everyone's
welcome, there's no division. It's not like “oh
you're an electro kid you can't come here,”
it's more like “oh you like electro, well
tell me about it because I don't know much about
it and I'll show you what I like.” Well
that's my experience of it anyway.
Sounds
pretty good to me. Quite early on in your career
as Twin Atlantic you were supporting bands like
Biffy Clyro and even the Smashing Pumpkins. How
do you feel about, well, within a year, landing
such fantastic slots.
(Craig) I remember when we found
out about Biffy, I was speechless. And the Smashing
Pumpkins one, we just couldn't believe it, it
didn't make sense.
(Sam) I couldn't believe it.
It took like fifteen minutes. “Oh yeah ha
ha very good so what's happening really?”
It's ridiculous. Bands that new shouldn't get
such opportunities. We were really really lucky.
(Craig) We're really appreciative
of the bands because, well, The Smashing Pumpkins...
The drummer picked us so. So it was really cool
to...
(Sam) Putting ourselves in the
right positions, with hard work obviously but
then, we got lucky. But we didn't write some shit
songs and then get lucky, there was a lot of hard
work, putting our EP out with the biggest Scottish
promoter and then that's how we got put forward
for that gig.
Light
Speed is being (kind of) re-released next week,
what's the reasoning behind that?
(Sam) Well initially it was released
as a free download to say thank you for being
patient with us and the new album. Bit of difference
between Scotland and England, we've got a bigger
fan base, playing bigger venues, blah blah. And
people were getting a little impatient with us
not having new songs recorded or whatever. So
that was the reason that that was brought out
like that. And we didn't expect, well, it wasn't
that LOADS of people downloaded it, but it was
certainly more than we expected. From across the
nations, Wales, England, even Ireland. So we have
come to the theory that it would be good to re-release
it, to get some radio play or whatever, and people
like Zane Lowe raised our profile a little bit.
It's too good an opportunity to pass up to release
Light Speed as an official single. We were a bit
dubious because, we've just finished writing fifteen
new songs it's not like we don't have new material,
and we didn't want people to think we were regurgitating
the same thing.
A
couple of tracks
off of the album were on the EP...
(Sam) Yeah that's right. Because,
the reason we got the deal was because of those
two songs. They did well across Europe and in
America so we wanted to put our best foot forward.
We realised people who knew us before might feel
a bit cheated, but there were also new songs which
they hadn't heard. But our doubts were blown out
the water when we gave our album to some promoters
and it got radio play the same day on like, Zane
Lowe or something. And MTV2 and some other stations
so, kinda worthwhile if you know what I mean.
You
played Download last year, what was that like?
(Craig) No offence to the festival
but it was probably the worst festival we've played.
We didn't play that badly but, they put us on
like, the classic metal day. It was bands like
Def Leppard and stuff and we stuck out like a
sore thumb. But we played Sonisphere later that
Summer which is kinda the same thing but that
was amazing.
Are
you playing any of the festivals this year?
(Sam) I hope so yeah we're just
scheduling. Because we're a new band there's opportunities
that we have to go for that require rescheduling.
That's why tonight was rescheduled, because were
were offered a full European tour with Enter Shikari.
We went to thirteen new countries.
Had
you been to Europe previously?
(Sam) Yeah, we went with Subways
to Germany and Fall of Troy, kinda to Germany
but six of the gigs got cancelled because the
drummer set fire to his passport. And we found
that out when we got to Germany so we sat in Germany
for a week doing nothing.
(Craig) We played in Cologne
though.
(Sam) Yeah, we're going back
in two weeks to do out first run of headline shows
in Germany. It's incredible. You kinda of dream
about, yeah we'll do this and yeah we'll have
our own shows in Europe but it's kinda cool that
it's all come together.
Do
you know how the record has been received in Europe?
(Sam) I honestly don't know.
(Craig) I don't know but, when
we were out with Enter Shikari there were people
singing along to all our songs, and I remember
playing gigs in England where nobody sang along.
And that was in countries we'd never even been
to.
And
you've got a tour coming up in America with Fall
Of Troy and Envy On The Coast... What are you
expecting?
(Sam) You know what, I'm expecting
a lot of confusion. I don't think people are going
to be expecting, well, obviously I'm very Scottish.
So they'll be like “oh it's kind of like
American rock in some places, but he's still singing
with that Scottish accent!” I think we'll
win over a lot of fans. We played South By South
West there before and, they really aren't expecting
it.
Out
of all the bands you've supported, who have been
the best? In terms of, I know some bands like
to keep themselves to themselves, who were the
nicest people?
(Sam) Biffy were nice guys, we've
stayed in touch and even become better friends
since the tour. Enter Shikari were really nice
actually, they were the first band we've toured
with who were closer to our age, whereas other
bands are older. We're only 22, 23. We tend to
get on better with the crew – the guitar
techs, the tour managers and stuff.
What
kind of music is influencing you at the moment.
Is there anything that is around right now that
you're liking?
(Craig) I really like Noah &
The Whale's new record. I really like it. The
orchestral stuff, it's not so folky, it's far
more epic. He used to go out with this girl, Laura
Marling, and the whole album is about breaking
up with her and the band's support and that. But
I love the orchestral stuff, I'd like to incorporate
that more. They went from being a really folky
band to something different, and we need to write
songs that don't sound like Vivarium pt 2, but
we need to do it in a way that, a natural progression.
Vivarium
peaked at #148 in the UK.
(Sam) Did it? I didn't know that.
Now
you do, how do you feel about that?
(Sam) I don't know. That's pretty cool. I honestly
didn't know that. There are loads of albums
and we're a pretty small new bands so, that's
pretty cool. Respectable. But I don't want to
get big straight away, we need to do it gradually.
You hear of people going straight in at number
six and then there's a massive expectation on
them. I'm only 22, I've got a lot to learn about
song-writing and about life. I've written songs
about stuff on Vivarium that I'll probably have
completely different opinions on in two or three
years.
Favourite
track on the album, and if so, why?
(Sam) Caribbean War Syndrome,
because, I think we really nailed the marriage
between the music and the lyrical content as well.
It's about a soldier going to war with conflicting
opinions and the music reflects that with loud
and quiet and light and dark, etc.
(Craig) Mine is Light Speed.
Not just because it's coming out. Vivarium is
supposed to be an introduction to our band, and
Light Speed is the first song Sam and Ross wrote
together. It was the first song of theirs I'd
heard and I loved it. But it's changed a lot.
It's taken us two and a half years to get it to
how we want it to sound. It just reminds me of
where we've come from. But if you heard the original
version you wouldn't believe it was the same song.
How
is this tour going? I couldn't work out where
you are with your touring because so many things
are starting and finishing around now.
(Sam) Well we had Cardiff, London,
tonight here Southampton. That's it. Then we've
got one show in Germany with White Lies, five
headline shows in Europe and then off to America
for fifty shows in fifty-four days. So that's
what we've got lined up. I don't know what else
to say I've shocked myself.
(Craig) It's nice to know we're
busy up until May though. Sometimes you're in
a band and you never know when your next tour
is going to be.
How
have the new gigs gone?
(Sam) Amazing. Really, really
good. I spoke about the difference between Scotland
and England, well we sold out a show in Glasgow
with 1300 people, and that was a real life changing
moment. But then, we sold out a show in Leeds,
and that was only 130 people but it's a big thing
for a band to have people outside trying to buy
tickets. The shows are more exciting and the number
of people has doubled since the last time we were
there.
Your
support tonight are Canterbury and Viva Sleep.
(Sam) Yeah Canterbury are following
us around all tour. They're great guys. We've
been learning a lot about vocal harmonies from
them. Which is cool to get along with a band but
also have total respect for their band too.
(Craig) If you asked the question
who were our best support band, these guys would
be up there. I feel like they're an English version
of us.
Thank
you guys.
Interview By Thom Curtis