Thom
caught up with vocalist Tom Lacey and guitatrist
Jag Jago from Ghost Of A Thousand back stage at
Southampton Joiners as the band were due to support
all girl punk rock band Mcqueen.
So,
how has your day been so far?
(Tom)
Good. Uh, well, we left London really late, which
is probably our own fault to be perfectly honest,
and we just got stuck in traffic on the way down
here.
Were
you gigging in London last night, or..?
(Tom)
No we did a gig in Wolverhampton, and then stayed
at Tommy Vance's house.
Who's
Tommy Vance?
(Jag)
“Who's Tommy Vance?!”
(Tom)
Infamous rock DJ. So uh yeah we stayed at their
house last night, and then came here today.
Are
you doing the whole tour with McQueen or is it
just this gig?
(Tom)
Yeah we got the whole week it's...
(Jag)
Eight days.
(Tom)
Yeah, eight days in total.
And
how many have you done so far?
(Tom)
Just one, this is number two.
And
are you looking forward to it, did last night
go well?
(Tom)
Yeah it was cool, I think it's going to be a very
different sort of crowd for us, because it's kind
of like, very classic rock bands.
You're
from Brighton...
(Tom)
Yeah.
They
(McQueen) are from Brighton...
(Tom)
Yeah.
Did
you know each other before or were you kind of
thrown together by a company?
(Tom)
I think Andy and Gez knew them.
(Jag)
Andy and Gez went to music college, BIM, so did
half of McQueen. So... Acquaintances.
You
played with Aiden.
(Tom)
Yeah.
I
presume
you're big fans or are you just wearing the hoodie
for something to do?
(Tom)
It's very warm actually. Uh, they were amazing.
Yeah,
I saw them at Reading.
(Jag)
Didn't they get bottled?
Yeah
I think they did.
(Tom)
They're just the loveliest people on the planet.
They
look kinda scary.
(Tom)
Nah they're all absolute sweethearts, it's really
funny.
Is
there anyone else you'd like to play with? Like,
if you could support anyone?
(Tom)
The Bronx.
Oh
right, they're playing around here sometime actually,
I read it last night.
(Jag)Hmm, Biffy Clyro?
Yeah
that's it, they played on Thursday I think.
(Tom)
Yeah we sort of followed them around last time,
and we're now following them around again. Like
little puppies.
So
they are your ideal?
(Tom)
They're just the best rock and roll band on the
planet at the moment, they're just fucking unreal.
And uh, Bad religion for you, (pointing at Jag,)
they're your heroes.
(Jag)
Yeah but, they're old.
Have
you played here before?
(Tom)
Yeah we played here before with a band called
The Abominable Iron Sloth.
Do
you like it here? Do you think it's a good venue?
(Tom)
The sound system's really good.
Yeah
it's a really small room, but has an amazing sound.
(Tom)
The stage is a bit high that's the only problem.
I never understand why you have such small venues
and then... Well I kind of like to walk around
anyway, but it's just kind of weird when you go,
and there's just this big step. And you're two
feet above them it's just a bit weird.
Tomorrow
you're playing back in Brighton? Do you have a
big crowd there? Because I suppose it's your home
town?
(Tom)Yeah I suppose, I mean the Christmas
show was awesome wasn't it? We played at the Pressure
Point.
Do
you tend to bring your fans out with you when
you tour around the country?
(Tom)
I think we're still just getting there really,
I mean, we haven't really been around long enough,
you know, this is only the second time we've played
Southampton, so, we're playing, you know, spectacle
shows really, because at the end of the day, being
on tour is just so much fun. You know, just hanging
out with your mates, and getting to play your
songs, is just, well I'd rather do this than anything
else. Rather than being sat at home with a little
shitty job. So I'd rather do this than anything.
I can't really recommend being in a band enough,
you know, more people should do it. Just get on
with it.
Haha,
just get on with it?
(Tom)
Yeah stop fannying around.
I
looked
at your MySpace, there isn't very much information
on there, I have to say. And there's a link to
your website but that doesn't seem to work either!
(Tom)
Well our personal lives are not worthy of note
in any way, just what we do as a band, that's
all we took it for, really. I think the music
we make, is bigger than us.
Well
do you want to tell me a bit about how you came
to be the band you are today? Like, when you started,
and all that jazz.
(Jag)
I had a dream. (Laughing.)
Oo
check out Martin Luther over here.
(Tom)
(Laughing.) It turned into a nightmare. Nah. Well.
Mem and Jag are brothers.
That's
the drummer and guitarist. You tried out just
for a while, didn't you.
(Jag)
Yeah I mean it's difficult. If you grew up in
a small town, it's hard to meet musicians that
are into the same music. Me and Mem were getting
quite excited and just wanted to try something
new really.
(Tom)
And I knew Mem because I was working in a bar,
and I was playing in a really shitty little noisecore
band, and I was mister, kind of, “you know,
it's got to be white noise or nothing.”
Because that's all I was interested in, and then,
these guys were looking for a singer, a kind of
screamy kind of thing, and I just thought, “fuck
it, I'll give it a go.” It wasn't even an
audition was it? I just kind of, turned up, did
it, and just recorded it. We didn't really discuss
it that much. So until I fuck up, I think I'm
in!
Have
you played any really, really big gigs yet?
(Tom)
Birmingham Academy with Aiden was fucking terrifying.
Was
that the biggest one?
(Tom)
Yeah, about one and a half thousand people
wasn't it? Something like that, it was a lot.
Well it seemed like a lot.
Was
it scary?
(Tom) Yeah. I was fucking shitting
my pants. Haha. I mean just, that whole tour was
such an amazing experience. They really took us
under their wing. They're got this freaky MisFits
thing going on, but they're really sweet guys.
They were into what we were doing, so they just,
let us get on with it. But yeah that's just such
an amazing experience.
Do
you prefer playing the big gigs, or the smaller
ones?
(Tom)
It's just a different experience. It's just so
different. I mean I like the small stage where
you can get in amongst things, like when you're
playing in a grotty little venue in Brighton with
a shit sound system but it's just so much fun.
With a flat stage when you can just bound around
and just grab people. You get a nice sense of,
everyone in it together when you play a small
venue, especially when you're supporting. If it
had been one and a half thousand of our own fans
then obviously it would have been a very different
thing, but walking out in front of that many people
who don't know who you are, it's pretty daunting,
you've just got to get on with it. I think we
kind of, did what we always do, just get your
head down and try and get everyone on your side.
(Jag)
It's Wembley Arena next. (Laughing)
(Tom)
(Also laughing,) yeah we're supporting the Chili
Peppers.
You
describe your music about being “young and
unstoppable...”
(Tom)
Yeah...
Is
that speaking from experience or what?
(Tom)
I think it's just, I mean it's, someone made a
nice point in one of our reviews, that it's kind
of about dwindling youth freedoms, but it's out
kind of, stand against that. The thing is there's
just this general attitude, that you've got to,
I mean, especially now you know, you're expected
to get a job younger, and there's no childhood
or youth anymore, you know, you're in primary
school and then you're a young adult. And it's
like, well, fuck it, I know we're not spring chickens
but, in a way it's more just about being in a
band and just loving what you do. It's just, not
letting yourself being led to believe that the
only way to get ahead in this life is to be raised
by a nuclear family, have a shit job, and that's
the only way you can be happy, because these things
bring happiness, like a car or a mortgage. It's
just like, it's not really important.
That's
possibly the best answer I've ever heard to anything,
ever.
(Tom)
Really? Fantastic.
Are
there many bands in Brighton coming up that you
think people should keep their eyes on?
(Tom)
Blood Red Shoes. But they're already doing really
well, so. They're a great great band. We're following
them around as well. Hopefully we'll clash at
some point.
One
big Brighton massive.
(Tom)
Well there are loads of bands, some really good
indie labels there.
Is
that what is mostly coming out, indie stuff?
(Tom)
Yeah well, it's all about kids in their
bedrooms pressing records.
And
obviously the Kooks came from Brighton. Are you
a fan?
(Jag)
I was at his house party on New Years Eve.
Oh
really?
(Jag)
Yeah, trashed it. He was like, what are you doing
here? But I was having a great time.
What
a way to spend New Years Eve.
(Tom)
Yeah well they're good. They're a good pop band,
and their song writing is just first class. I
mean they work fucking hard don't they.
(Jag)
They got signed after their second gig or something,
and the week later they're on Top of the Pops.
And now they've got like, Penthouse Apartments.
(Tom)
Well maybe in two years we'll have a Penthouse
Apartment... ...I can't believe you trashed it.
Were you sick?
(Jag)
Huh?
(Tom)
Were you sick in it?
(Jag)
I don't know.
Was
the title of your new album, (This is where the
fight begins,) actually based on people beating
themselves up at gigs?
(Tom)
No.
That's
alright then.
(Tom)
Not literally like, here it comes, we're going
to punch you. It's more just about, yeah you know
the lyrics, I guess it's a bit of a statement,
but it's just our stand against, you know, like,
yeah I just think there's this general attitude
of there's a certain way you live your life, and
this is us. Us doing this is our little sort of,
stand against that. It's a big deal to us, so
that's why the title is that.
(Jag)
Not many bands are doing what we're doing. I mean,
at the moment even in Brighton, there's some sort
of theme, particularly with metal bands. It's
so easy to just pick up a guitar and play beat
down riffs, but we're trying to be generic in
what we do.
(Tom)
Yeah it's all about being a in a rock and roll
band. It's been tough though. I mean the standard
assumption we get from the press is like, right,
“they're a Brighton heavy band,” and
then they look at are pictures and say, “their
haircut's like that, therefore they're going to
sound like...” I mean Johnny Truant and
the Architects had the same thing, I mean the
Architects came out and the instant reaction was
“oh they're just a mini Johnny Truant, which
isn't the case at all, they're very different
bands. It's inevitable, it's the lazy assumption
to make, you know. Brighton band, heavy, therefore,
they must follow the strict pattern.
Do
you like your crowd to go nuts and fling themselves
about aimlessly, like other heavy bands do?
(Tom)
They can do what they want to. I don't mind. I
don't mind what people do so long as they enjoy
it.
Do
you do the same, but up on stage? Do you hurl
yourself around or...?
(Tom)
Yeah, we do don't we?
(Jag)
We bleed.
(Tom)
Yeah we cut ourselves a lot, unfortunately. But
yeah, I don't expect the crowd to entertain me,
so if they just want to stand there, but they're
enjoying it, then that's fucking fine. But there's
so many young bands that are like “why aren't
you moving?!” and it's just like, nobody
knows the songs, the album's not even out yet,
so, maybe in a year I'll give you a different
answer. If we meet again that is. But you know
what I mean
(Jag)
I'd like to see people holding hands, doing the
conga.
(Tom)
Human pyramids, we like that. We had that at Aiden
actually, it was fucking brilliant. This place
at the back, these kids were doing human pyramids
and just jumping off each other. That's what I
want, human pyramids non-stop.
Well,
that's about it. Anything else you want to say?
(Jag)
Buy the record.
I've
already got it.
(Tom)
You've already got it?
(Jag)
What?
In
my bag, and I'm going to get you to sign it, if
that's alright?
(Tom)
Have you got a copy of the record?! I'm not annoyed,
I'm just wondering. Wow, I haven't even got one
of these. Wow, these will look good on the proper
paper.
Thanks
guys.
Interview by Thom