We
caught up Frank Turner backstage at the Academy
in Manchester to talk about his current tour,
plans for 2010 and so much more.
Hi
Frank, how is the tour going so far?
It’s going really well, this is
the biggest headline tour I’ve ever done,
most of the venues are sold out now, apart from
Wolverhampton, Plymouth and Cardiff, but I think
the latter two will sell out within the next
day or two. Wolverhampton bastards! No, we’ve
sold over a thousand tickets for Wolverhampton,
but it’s a big venue! It’s funny,
because this is new territory for me, it’s
very nice territory! It feels really good selling
out venues this big; it’s not something
that I’m used to
You’ve
just released your third album ‘Poetry Of
The Deed’, are you happy with the way it’s
been received so far?
Yeah, I am! It’s kind of funny,
between finishing and releasing an album is
like a limbo period where there’s a couple
of months where you’re like ‘Argh,
I want to get it out there!’ But also,
this time there were more people who had expectations
about this album, much more than any other record
I’ve put out. So I went through a number
of different emotional phases. When I finished
the album there were days when I thought ‘this
is great’, and then those where I thought,
‘this isn’t good enough’.
At the end of the day it got in the fucking
Top 40, which is ridiculous! So people are into
it, and I’m happy with it. My creative
aim is to do everything as best as I can, and
I think I’ve done that.
The
album was produced by Alex Newport, who has a
pretty awesome repertoire, how was it working
with him?
It was really good actually, he is the
most Midlands person in the entire universe,
his nickname is Captain Sunshine because he’s
just like ‘everything’s shit!’
We recorded the music to the album in an amazing,
beautiful residential studio on a farm in Norfolk
and then moved to his studios in Williamsburg,
in the States. I’m a big fan of his production
work, I love Fudge Tunnel and Nailbomb, they’re
pretty big bands to me. We had fun, and he’s
a really nice guy, he also has the most ridiculous
set of ears on him! It’d get to the point
where he’d be A B-ing stuff to me, so
he’d say “Do you like it like this,
or this?” and I’d be like “I
cannot tell the fucking difference, why are
you asking?” It’s the first time
I’ve ever worked with a producer, my guitarist
Ben produced the first two albums, so it was
different. I was really keen to work with him,
but there was a moment when I was a bit defensive
and was like, “Who the fuck is this guy?”
I was really worried he was going to tell me
to do something different with the songs, but
he didn’t do that, he basically just held
a mirror up to us and made all of us triple
check that we’d done the best job that
we could, and in the process he made us realise
we weren’t ready to record yet. It was
just little things like he’d stop us all
and go, “What were you playing on bass?”
and then Tarrant (Anderson, bass) would play
it and I’d go “Oh, you’re
playing that? Don’t play that!”
From the start we wanted to record the album
live, even the vocals, in the past I’ve
spent ages on the vocals and been really anal
about it, but Alex was just like “You’re
going to sing the song five times, and we’re
going to record the last two, and then you have
to pick which one you like most!”, that
actually made me feel quite good about myself,
it made me think ‘Oh, I can actually sing!”
Hooray for Alex Newport!
You
are no stranger to life on the road, so when you
get some time off, how do you like to spend it?
It’s been a while since I had
anything more than a couple of days off, but
I generally keep moving when I’m not on
the road, it sounds melodramatic, but I start
feeling really cagey and weird if I stay in
one place for too long! My friends live in London,
my Mum lives in Winchester, and my band are
based in Oxford, so when I’m not on the
road I’m zipping between those three,
and I try to take time to go visit friends in
other towns in the UK. I’ve been doing
this for a long time, it’s been about
six years since I was not on tour, so I’m
used to it now!
For
someone who has never seen you play live, in your
own words, what can they expect?
Pyrotechnics and costume changes! Nope,
none of that! Let me put it this way, something
I’ve always loved about Springsteen and
something that really sets him apart from so
many other people, people like Coldplay who
reach a certain point where they have to have
revolving stages, costume changes, and a novelty
bit where they pop up in the middle of the crowd,
is that it’s just a bunch of guys that
just get up on stage, they all wear normal clothes
and they play for three hours, and it’s
amazing, and much better than all this choreographed,
light show crap. They’re just a solidly,
excellent group of entertainers, I would describe
myself as an entertainer before anything else,
so I try and make sure everyone in the room
has a really fucking good time when they come
to a show!
Do
you prefer playing solo shows, or with your band?
Right now I prefer playing with the
band, I’ve just done a tour of America
where I played solo, but right now I do prefer
it with the band. I get to play a few solo songs
in a set, so that kind of balances it out a
bit. It’s a real pleasure playing with
the guys that I play with, they’re amazing
musicians.
As
you’ve just said, you recently returned
from a trip to America with The Gaslight Anthem,
and previous to that with The Offspring. How were
those tours and would you like to spend more time
over in the States and Canada?
The tours were great, The Offspring
tour was fun, it was kind of weird and really
big, they were really nice guys and everything.
The Gaslight Anthem tour was also great, we
have a lot of history! That was exactly the
right kind of crowd for me. It was mental, being
with Epitaph Records (Frank’s representatives
for non-UK releases) makes a difference, we
played in Vancouver, and I’d never played
there before. There were about 500 people when
I went on stage, and as I walked on this big
banner saying ‘Welcome To Vancouver Frank’
just went up across the whole crowd and I was
just like “Who the fuck are you guys?
How do you know who I am?” In terms of
going out there, I’m going to be in the
States a lot. I think it’s possible to
over tour the UK, whereas it isn’t really
possible to over tour the States, if you wanted
to you could just keep going round and round!
I also like spending time in Europe, I haven’t
been out there in a while, but I’m hoping
to, maybe in January. The crowds over there
are actually mental! They’re all genuinely
enthusiastic because you’ve actually bothered
to go over at all. I like going to Latvia, and
I’ve been to Russia a few times. It’s
pretty wild in that part of the world!
Whenever
you tour over here you seem to hand pick your
supports, is this something that you deem important,
and do you still have a say in this given your
ever increasing status?
I think it’s very important, and
right now I almost have more say in it than
ever! There are two reasons I think it’s
important, partly because there are a lot of
bands that I think are great and more people
should too. We’ve just settled the supports
for the March tour next year, it’s going
to be Chuck Ragan and Crazy Arm. There’s
a guy called Ben Marwood, he’s a friend
of mine and he’s incredible. He’s
in my top friends on Myspace! I wanted to take
him on the next tour so much, but for various
reasons I couldn’t, he’s definitely
on the one after that though. Secondly, I feel
kind of responsible for how the night goes,
because it’s kind of under my name. When
people come out to a show I want them to have
a really good time, not just for my set, but
to find something new as well. It’s great
having Fake Problems on this tour, I fucking
love those guys! They’ve taken me on tour
in the States a couple of times, so I really
owed them one! And Beans on Toast (tonight’s
other support) is on fire at the moment! Jay
(Beans on Toast) and I are really old friends,
he’s basically the reasons I’m doing
what I’m doing! He used to run a bar called
Nambucca in London, which sadly burnt down,
but now he owns the Flowerpot, where I played
just after the 24 hour filming of the video
for the last single ‘The Road’.
You’ve
become notorious for doing some awesome cover
songs, and I’ve recently read that for this
tour you have Spandau Ballet’s tour bus!
Are you planning on recording any of their classics
as homage to them?
Frank now bursts into a rendition of
Gold…
I doubt it very much, but I’m trying
to convince the rest of the band to do a full,
unchanged and un-ironic cover of ‘Bat
Out of Hell’, but for some reason they
don’t seem to want to do it! It’d
be fucking great, but we’ll see!
You’ve
been signed to Xtra Mile Recordings in the UK
for quite some time, both with your solo stuff
and Million Dead, are there any bands coming through
from them that we should be looking out for?
As I’ve mentioned, Crazy Arm are
definitely one to look out for. But also The
Xcerts, when I heard their album I thought it
was pretty cool, but it’s seeing them
live that did it for me, they’re awesome!
I was lucky enough to have Chris TT send me
his album the other day which is coming out
on Xtra Mile in January, he’s really pulled
it out of his arse for this one. It’s
really funny as well, there’s a song on
there called ‘Market Square’ which
is a kind of leftist, political song and I’m
of the kind of opposite political persuasion
when it comes to economics, and I have a song
called ‘Sons of Liberty’ which is
kind of about that, so we were thinking about
maybe releasing a split, with one on each side!
That’d be fun!
What
does the next year have in store for Frank Turner?
Essentially, touring! My touring schedule
in various shapes and forms goes through to
about October next year. But it’s cool,
I’m going to go to some new places, I’m
going to go to Australia and hopefully Japan.
Every time I go somewhere new on the basis that
I’m playing guitar and singing I just
laugh my arse off, it’s ridiculous! I
think ‘Who the fuck is paying for this?’
I find myself getting off planes in Los Angeles
and thinking ‘Yeah, this is good!’
Life is alright, I have no complaints about
my station in life at the moment.
Interview By Ben Connell